Talk:Russ Island

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Review: January 16, 2022. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Russ Island appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 January 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that after many years of farming crops, Russ Island was deliberately flooded for salt farming?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 08:47, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that after many years of farming crops, Russ Island was deliberately flooded for farming salt? Source: URS Corporation (October 2011). "Napa-Sonoma Marshes Wildlife Area Land Management Plan". California Department of Fish and Game. Retrieved 26 February 2021.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Givans Creek Woods

5x expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 01:30, 18 November 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nice work. Complete sentences technically aren't a DYK stipulation, so I'll let that pass, but the sentence should be fixed sooner or later. There's an incomplete sentence: Bounded by Napa River, China Slough and Devil's Slough.[22] Epicgenius (talk) 13:50, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: Fixed that part and expanded the rest of the article some, as well (I did this a few days ago but forgot to mention it here and ping you). jp×g 08:32, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me. Epicgenius (talk) 18:22, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG: was the island flooded? the article says there were plans and proposals to flood it... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she?) 08:28, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

marking for return WP:DYKN theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she?) 18:45, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Leaving a note so I remember to get to this tomorrow. jp×g 13:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: Leslie Salt was using it as an evaporation pond for quite some time. What I know is they bought it in 1952-53, planned to have it in operation for salt harvesting by 1958... and were still using it in 1991. If they were still using it in 1991, it follows logically that they started using it at some point before, but I don't have an exact date for that. This source ("Area History". California Department of Fish and Wildlife. 2021-11-01.) says that they were converted at some point in the 1950s, but not more than that. jp×g 03:18, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I added a little clarifying note to this effect, let me know what you think. jp×g 03:19, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good to me. – Epicgenius (talk) 03:38, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Epicgenius, theleekycauldron, have the issues that caused this nom to be pulled from prep been addressed? It can't be repromoted without a confirmation of this and also a new tick. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:53, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I hereby confirm the above issues are addressed. – Epicgenius (talk) 02:55, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To T:DYK/P2

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Russ Island/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 18:23, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead needs expansion; for a GA of an article this length, it'll probably need a full paragraph

Took a crack at it, I don't know if this is stunningly eloquent but it seems pretty good to me. jp×g 02:06, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure that the coordinates need to be given inline in the prose

Many people are saying this. Removed. jp×g 02:01, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"An official 1876 map of Napa County shows many islands of the Napa River in their present locations, albeit divided by levees and sloughs along different boundaries than they would later come to have" - a bit concerned by the source here; a 1876 map won't support the claims about modern locations/boundaries

Added supplementary cites. jp×g 02:01, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"By 1902, a United States Geological Survey map shows Russ Island as one mostly contiguous island, but covered in marsh and crossed by numerous sloughs; by 1916, USGS maps show it as being almost fully surrounded by levees. On the 1916 survey, as well as a 1942 survey, it is mislabeled as nearby "Knight Island"; however, by 1949 the error was corrected, and it is shown as "Russ Island" in all maps thereafter." - citation needed

Gottem. jp×g 01:58, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"was not "traveled by any through country or State road";[12] city engineer of nearby Vallejo proposed to build a highway through the" - missing a word?

Indeed. jp×g 02:01, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"dike the islands to develop them into salt ponds" - Salt pond is a dab page; recommend piped linking to Salt evaporation pond.

Gottem. jp×g 02:01, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Placing on hold, Hog Farm _Talk 18:37, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can't believe that you reviewed one of my GA nominations, and it wasn't the one with the hog farm proposal. I guess maybe that would be a COI. Oh well! Let's get down to brass tacks. jp×g 01:48, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Hog Farm: Okay, I got down to brass tacks. Let me know what you think. jp×g 02:06, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]