Talk:Rosalind Ridley

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edit request

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Per WP:ABOUTSELF, #2 and #5.

Please replace the current entry for Education and Career by the following.

Rosalind Mary Ridley was born in 1949 in Coventry, UK and educated at Barr's Hill School, and Newnham College, Cambridge, source: https://neurotree.org/neurotree/peopleinfo.php?pid=7907&expand=bio. After reading Natural Sciences in Cambridge, majoring in Psychology, source: https://www.newn.cam.ac.uk/person/dr-rosalind-ridley/, she studied for her PhD at the Institute of Psychiatry, King’s College London, source: https://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&uin=uk.bl.ethos.470488, under the supervision of Professor George Ettlinger, source: https://neurotree.org/neurotree/peopleinfo.php?pid=7907&expand=bio. In 1977, she joined the Medical Research Council (United Kingdom, working in the Department of Psychiatry, Clinical Research Centre, Northwick Park Hospital, Harrow, London, source: https://neurotree.org/neurotree/peopleinfo.php?pid=7907&expand=bio. In 1994, she moved to the Department of Psychology, Cambridge University as Head of the Medical Research Council's Comparative Cognition External Scientific Staff Team, source: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rosalind_Ridley. She retired in 2005. Cfrith (talk) 09:28, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 05-DEC-2019

Edit request declined

The majority of the provided references originate from the subject herself via web domains whose contents she controls. The subject may use these sources as references only for claims that are made involving herself and which do not involve other parties.
As the claims to receiving an education from a particular university, working in a particular research centre, or studing under a particular professor are all claims which involve other parties (the university, the research center and the professor, respectively) these references ought to originate from reliable, independent WP:SECONDARY sources.

Regards, Spintendo 10:00, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

edit request

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

In the current entry for Education and Career please insert the following references:

1) After ‘she studied for her PhD at the Institute of Psychiatry, London under the supervision of Professor George Ettlinger’, insert source: https://www.worldcat.org/title/responsiveness-of-units-in-part-of-inferotemporal-and-foveal-prestriate-cortex-of-the-monkey-during-visual-discrimination-performance/oclc/1027306891&referer=brief_results 2) After ‘Department of Psychiatry, Clinical Research Centre, Northwick Park Hospital, Harrow, London’ insert source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/clinical-research-centre-division-of-psychiatry-197419771/0DAB9F9054D977906D24DB5DED682AEC

I believe that these are reliable independent sources.

Cfrith (talk) 15:33, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 06-DEC-2019

Clarification requested

After ‘she studied for her PhD at the Institute of Psychiatry, London under the supervision of Professor George Ettlinger’, insert source It is not known what is meant by the word studied. Please clarify (e.g., "She obtained her Ph.D. at the Institute of Psychiatry, London, where she worked under the supervision of her advisor, George Ettlinger" or other such clearer explanation).^[a]
After ‘Department of Psychiatry, Clinical Research Centre, Northwick Park Hospital, Harrow, London’ is an incomplete sentence. Please provide the entire verbatim sentence (and its location within the article) for clarity.

Regards, Spintendo 18:27, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

^ The word "studied" does not imply an end result, and thus, leaves open the question of whether those studies were concluded successfully.

edit request

Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented.

In Education and Career

Replace sentence 2.

After reading Natural Sciences in Cambridge, majoring in Psychology, she completed her PhD on comparative neuropsychology at the Institute of Psychiatry, London under the supervision of Professor George Ettlinger (Source: https://www.worldcat.org/title/responsiveness-of-units-in-part-of-inferotemporal-and-foveal-prestriate-cortex-of-the-monkey-during-visual-discrimination-performance/oclc/1027306891&referer=brief_results).

Replace sentence 3.

In 1977, she joined the Clinical Research Centre, Division of Psychiatry (source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/clinical-research-centre-division-of-psychiatry-197419771/0DAB9F9054D977906D24DB5DED682AEC) at Northwick Park Hospital, Harrow, London and, in 1994, moved to the Department of Psychology, Cambridge University as Head of the Medical Research Council's Comparative Cognition External Scientific Staff Team.

Cfrith (talk) 15:46, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 8-DEC-2019

Edit request partially implemented

Y The claim regarding the subject's PhD and Ettlinger were added to the article.
Y The claim regarding the CRC was added.
N The claim regarding the move to the Dept of Psychology at Cambridge could not be added, because it was not referenced.

Additional changes made:

The unreferenced section maintenance template was omitted.
Information about the subject's artwork was omitted, per WP:NOTAGALLERY.

Regards, Spintendo 21:42, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] The word "studied" does not imply an end result, and thus, leaves open the question of whether those studies were concluded successfully.

[a]