Talk:Roman Catholic Diocese of Verona

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"a distinguished canonist, Pope Lucius III died at Verona, in 1183". Pope Lucius III died in 1185 having issued the Bulla Ad Abolendam at tthe Council of Verona in November 1184. So this is bollocks.You Can Walk Like A'Gyptian ;) (talk) 18:36, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removed flag of Italian Republic, per WP:ICON

I removed the Italian Republic flag (of 1946) icon from the Infobox, in accordance with several sections of WP:ICON; specifically (quoting),

   "Generally, flag icons should not be used in infoboxes, even when there is a "country", "nationality" or equivalent field: they are unnecessarily distracting and give undue prominence to one field among many....
   Flags make simple, blunt statements about nationality, while words can express the facts with more complexity. [Verona was for many centuries part of the German Empire (Holy Roman Empire), of the Duchy of Milan, the French Republic, the Empire of Napoleon I, the Serene Republic of Venice, the Savoyard Kingdom of Italy, and under the domination of the French and the Spanish at various times. The Italian flag removed was that of the Republic of Italy, not created until 1946]....
   Do not rewrite history. Flags should not be used to misrepresent the nationality of a historical figure [including some bishops], event, object, etc. Political boundaries change, often over the span of a biographical article subject's lifetime. Where ambiguity or confusion could result, it is better not to use a flag at all, and where one is genuinely needed, use the historically accurate flag."

I would also add that, since the revised Concordat of 1985, the Italian Republic is a secular state. The Roman Catholic Church is no longer the state religion. The diocese of Verona is an organ of the Roman Catholic Church, not the Italian Republic.

There are plenty of people still alive who were born when Italy was a Kingdom, including the present pope, Francis and a number of cardinals and retired bishops.

--Vicedomino (talk) 14:36, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]