Talk:Robert Thomas Jones (engineer)

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Swept wings have been in use by the Germans years before the thoeries of Robert T. Jones. Even oblique wings have been considered for the Blohm&Voss P.202 in 1944. What a coincidence, that Robert T. Jones came up with these ideas in 1945 !

Adolf Busemann presented the sweep wing 1935 on the 5.th Volta Conference.--HDP (talk) 15:28, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One of Sikorsky's engineers (Michael Gluhareff) also came up with the delta wing idea for high speed, in 1941. That is ultimately where R.T. Jones got the idea in 1944. There's a good discussion of the history in Hallion's paper "Lippisch, Gluhareff and Jones: The Emergence of the Delta Planform". Also Von Karman's book "Aerodynamics: Selected Topics in LIght of their Historical Development" talks about Jones' theory and their experience when he led the US group that first explored the German laboratories in 1945. Jones' delta wing theory was controversial, and the discovery the parallel German effort immediately ended debate and convinced everyone. DonPMitchell (talk) 08:01, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Jones did not work on delta wing designs.

There was no work done on any delta wing design in the US until the technology transfer from Germany. Lippisch never limited his work on thick wings. He also worked on Me 163 Komet with much thinner wings than those of a P.13a, for example. The development of the thin delta was done after the war in tight cooperation with Lippisch, who was brought to the US as part of the Paperclip Op. and worked for Convair. Unless you have some solid proof, with archival material, the claim about native "US delta" is simply not true. Ddelete013 (talk) 10:07, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry mate, you have been reading too many Internet myths. Jones was already publishing his thin-wing delta results by the time Lippisch arrived. Lippisch never worked for Convair; their engineers once travelled to meet him, but found that he was way behind Jones and his colleagues. The US claim is reliably sourced, which is more than yours is. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 21:17, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]