Talk:Road signs in Ireland

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'There are no longer any "end of speed limit" signs in Ireland, the normal speed limit merely being posted at the end of local restrictions. Prior to metrication in 2005, "end of speed limit" signs were a white circle with black diagonal line.'

This, while true officially and generally observed, is ignored in some Border areas (along with paying road tax and registering your vehicle in this State). Hence, the original signs (on the Irish side of the Border)can be seen just before you cross the Border, in some cases immediately after new signs which are effectively only applied to a few metres of road this side of the Border.

"Unique" signs

Some mandatory signs (one way, left turn only, right turn only) are unique to Ireland.

Not true. They are found in other parts of the world, too, but belong to a different convention from that used elsewhere in Europe. Inter alia, Brazil, Mexico (see [1]), and several south-east Asian countries use the same principles in regard to mandatory signs. -- Picapica (talk) 05:57, 8 October 2009 (UTC) (link update)[reply]

In relation to the reference 'end of speed limit' sign. The sign in question is in fact an international road traffic sign, its ultimate legal meaning and interpretation is with the various UN Conventions on Road Traffic, Road Signs and Signals. It is catalogued as "C,17a".

This is what I've discussed elsewhere in relation to it, (see link below).

This includes the so called UK (and NZ) 'Open Road Sign' - contracted by GB as meaning "END OF ALL LOCAL PROHIBITIONS IMPOSED ON MOVING VEHICLES", hardly "open road limit". The convention allows very similar designs, such as with or without a border or rim, and allows for a series of parted diagonal lines such as (///) or a solid one as shown.

The answer is for GB and The Republic of Ireland to initiate REMOVAL of the subject sign from their road network, and legislation, UNLESS it accepts the UN Convention meaning as contracted, for the length of road to which it is fixed.

The world *must* have uniformity of design and meaning with its primary road signage. Safety is not improved in international traffic when individual countries, their respective road authorities, act to give 'different meaning' to an international road traffic sign to their residents, to that understood everywhere else.

IF States Parties, or their jurisdictions, cannot come to terms with having a length of road without an absolute speed limit, for whatever reason or reasons, then it must NOT use the particular sign, nor it's sister sign, the C,17b I might add.

If it does however, and accepts the meaning, it CAN choose to impose, as part of "License Conditions" a speed limit maximum for certain categories of drivers, applicable when they in turn pass the sign, such as for an L-plater (Learner driver) or P-Plater (Provisional/s), or for HEAVY vehicles and coaches by way of 'speed limiters', since these are vehicle construction regulatory issues.

Jeremy Pritchard Mot Adv-NSW

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Prohibitory_traffic_sign"

Not sure why one should get so worked up about it...but anyway, the National Speed Limit sign is gone (along with the National Speed Limit!) since metrification of speed limits. Every road now has a signposted limit. Rdd 20:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other signs

What is the purpose of those small yellow signs one periodically encounters along National primary routes which say something like:
N-05
----
0004

Obviously the top part refers to the route number (In this example N5) but what does the lower number refer to ? Ive heard different theories but nothing verifiabe 80.229.222.48

Chainage markers I believe - they allow the NRA to identify a specific section of road for upgrading / traffic monitoring purposes. They are not intended for use by the public however. Rdd 20:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Typefaces/Fonts

Is there a standard font for Irish roadsigns and if so what is it called ? 80.229.222.48 06:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Transport Heavy is the name of the font used on most Irish road signs, motorway road numbers use another font called Motorway Permanent. See www.cbrd.co.uk for more info. --Rdd 14:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a specific name of the typeface used for the Irish? I know it is just oblique Transport Heavy with a few letters changed but is it an actual font? 86.40.98.160 (talk) 20:38, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately there does not seem to be a publicly available version of the oblique typeface. EthanL13 (talk) 12:56, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is here: https://github.com/smugpie/uk-ire-road-sign-fonts Mind the gap 1 (talk) 22:23, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This statement is incorrect and should be removed

"Despite its significant advantages the new gantry signage has caused confusion because the downward arrows over the left traffic lanes seem to indicate to drivers that they should pull out into the right lane if they wish to continue on the motorway or dual carriageway, breaking the keep left rule. In July 2007, some of the gantry signage on the M50 between Junctions 13-17 was replaced with signage in the "old" style, based on UK gantry signs. This is likely to mean that the new style signage will be replaced in other cases where it used also."

The new Gantry style does not follow the UK style, If you want to place it, then it is a hybrid of German, French style with UK fonts Limbo-Messiah (talk) 23:52, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dotted and dotless i

I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of road-signs use the dotless i. I can't recall seeing any that use dots, although perhaps I haven't been paying enough attention. However, lately I have noticed pictures on Commons of "dotted" signs. Some are new but others are older. Are these just mistakes or has there been some "change of policy"?

Examples: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]

~Asarlaí 03:29, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, Asarlaí! I will try to find out... -- Picapica (talk) 16:59, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Older road signs (perhaps prior to 2009/2010) used the dotless i. Signage produced since then do use the normal i. ~~ EthanL13 (talk) 16:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Height Restrictions Signs

It would appear that as of 2010, the height restriction sign is metric-only along with every other sign - see Traffic Signs Manual 2010 section 6.13. I believe that the statement in the artice that "height restriction signs are the only ones still to use imperial measurements as of 2011" needs updating, but better that it be done by someone who actually lives in the country, not me! Steve Hosgood (talk) 14:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Conflicting road sinages

The following observation I made on the article page was deleted on grounds of "Rem pov" ?? (unable to trace what that means) by Sarah777: "Across the country many dangerous bends and "S" bends display a 100km/h on approach, often together with a conflicting "SLOW" sign, rather than a single 80km/h sign, as elsewhere across Europe." In addition links to Commons' categories (here right) of regular 'Road signs in Ireland' as well as to images illustrating the dangerous and confusing problem of conflicting signages were also removed as 'Rem pov', despite really existing! Why conseal them? Osioni (talk) 18:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RoI / NI

I think it would greatly facilitate clarity if this article were either

split into two articles: Road signs in the Republic of Ireland and Road signs in Northern Ireland, or
renamed Road signs in the Republic of Ireland, with the NI information limited to something along the lines of "supplementary observations".

My preference is for the latter solution, given that the principles employed in NI road signage are essentially identical to those obtaining in the rest of the UK. -- Picapica (talk) 19:37, 22 June 2017 (UTC) Ireland is the official name of the Republic of Ireland why is Northern Ireland covered in this when its part of the UK? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:42BB:7200:D43B:6EC:EB29:EB49 (talk) 09:52, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Restructure

I have made a possible restructure in my sandbox, notably removing the reference to Northern Ireland, adding the images of signs to galleries and dividing each type of sign into categories as seen on other road sign articles. I plan to create and add more images.

Please let me know if you find this to be an improvement or otherwise. EthanL13 (talk) 09:37, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have now made the changes. Again, I am open to any opinions/criticisms you may have. EthanL13 (talk) 19:35, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]