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The first?

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I have doubts about this sentence: It is the first mass-produced electric pickup truck for the consumer market.

Some sources about what electric pickup trucks were available in China earlier than September 2021:[1][2]

So I am not sure if the Rivian R1T is the first mass-produced electric pickup truck. Or even the first mass-produced electric pickup truck for the consumer market.

And that's even under assumptions such as: including only modern models (not anything earlier than the 1980s), excluding NEVs, excluding vehicles produced mostly for the military, excluding vehicles which were mostly fleet vehicles or which were mostly leased and not sold (Ranger EV), and excluding cargo vehicles (Mitsubishi Minicab MiEV).

Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 16:41, 18 September 2021 (UTC) (edited)[reply]

@Periwinklewrinkles: Reliability aside, I am not convinced that these trucks are actually mass-produced. It's hard to find non-user generated information about them online or — hell — even professional pictures. I see that many reliable sources (CNET, Motortrend) have repeated the claim that this is the first mass-produced pickup truck and unfortunately these two articles alone are not sufficient to challenge them. JBchrch talk 00:00, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@JBchrch: While it does not answer the question whether it's mass-produced, the Ruiqi 6 EV (Rich 6 EV) was written about in English-language online media:[3][4][5].
And at least for that model, you certainly can find pictures, including professional pictures, if you Google for "Dongfeng Rich 6 EV" or "锐骐6皮卡EV" (the electric variant has blue details on the bumpers, so you can tell the EV and ICE variants apart). Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 04:36, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Periwinklewrinkles: Ok I'm now convinced that this is not the first mass-produced electric pick up in the world. What do you think of adding "in the United States" to the disputed sentence? We are kind of taking liberties with RS and SYNTH, but I guess it's acceptable in a case like this. JBchrch talk 15:13, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@JBchrch:Not that easy, as there was the Ford Ranger EV. There are low-speed NEV trucks. And there was an era roughly a century (or more) ago when electric trucks were relatively popular, I think some products from Walker Electric Trucks count as pickup trucks. Claims of being the first often turn out to be wrong, and that includes Tesla which claimed to be the first with its Model S[6], it was incorrect despite adding qualifiers like "mass-produced" and "highway-capable" (one reason is that Nissan was already taking preorders for the Leaf in Japan). Some sentences that might be true about the R1T (even though I can't vouch for it): A: It is the first American mass-produced electric pickup truck to have a range greater than 200 miles. B: It is the first modern mass-produced highway-capable pickup truck in the United States to be designed from the ground up as an electric vehicle. Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 00:31, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Periwinklewrinkles: Terribly sorry for the late response. This kinda slipped out of my mind. OK, I'm now convinced by your argument, but unfortunately this does not solve the sourcing issue. I think the most we could go without entering outright OR/SYNTH territory is to say that it's the first mass-produced electric truck for the consumer market in the United States, since our sources are all American. Alternatively, we could say "according to media outlets". JBchrch talk 18:33, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@JBchrch: One way to resolve this would be to simply not include the disputed sentence in the article. Since it's something that multiple sources wrote, but counter-examples can be found and sourced (the Ford Ranger EV; NEV trucks from GEM/Polaris; and maybe, but that's a maybe, some examples from a century ago). After adding "in the United States" to the sentence as you suggest, it would still be incorrect. Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 17:49, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Not anytime soon? When can electric pickup trucks enter our lives? (in Chinese)
  2. ^ The Ruiqi 6 Electric goes on the market. What other electric pickup trucks are available in China? (In Chinese)
  3. ^ https://www.electrive.com/2019/07/17/nissan-dongfeng-first-to-bring-an-e-pickup-to-market
  4. ^ https://insideevs.com/news/360169/video-electric-pickup-truck-dongfeng-nissan/
  5. ^ https://www.chinapev.com/dongfeng/dongfeng-nissan/zhengzhou-nissan-rich-6-ev-pickup-goes-on-sale-in-china/
  6. ^ https://www.tesla.com/blog/tesla-unveils-world%E2%80%99s-first-mass-produced-highway-capable-ev

Potential sources to improve the article

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LEGEND: Green checkmarkY = this source has been used in the article

This list of potential reliable sources was assembled on the Talk:Rivian Talk page, originally by IanRivian, who has straightforwardly disclosed his COI per standard wiki policy, and then further modified by me. I expect to use a number of these sources to improve the article in the coming weeks. Cheers. N2e (talk) 12:17, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

R1T

  • Vehicle details, platform, battery, specs [1][2]
  • Green checkmarkYCamp Kitchen [3]
  • Green checkmarkYTowing capacity [4]
  • Vehicle reviews
  • Green checkmarkYFirst customer vehicle rolls off the line [8]
  • Green checkmarkYRivian first to offer all-electric truck[9]

References

  1. ^ Sensiba, Jennifer (8 May 2021). "Rivian Tells Us More About R1T Size & Storage". CleanTechnica. Retrieved 12 August 2021.
  2. ^ Levin, tim (11 May 2021). "Rivian's R1T pickup has an air compressor, a built-in cooler under the bed, and a tailgate you can control through an app". Business Insider. Retrieved 18 August 2021.
  3. ^ Blanco, Sebastian (6 July 2021). "Rivian Cooks Up a Built-In Camp Kitchen for Its R1T Electric Pickup". Car and Driver. Retrieved 18 August 2021.
  4. ^ Cauthier, Michael (18 September 2020). "Rivian R1T Can Tow Up To 11,000 Lbs, But It Will Cut The Range In Half". CarScoops. Retrieved 18 August 2021.
  5. ^ Seabaugh, Christian (8 September 2021). "Exclusive: We Drive the 2022 Rivian R1T Off-Road Across the Trans-America Trail, Part 1". Motor Trend. Retrieved 14 September 2021.
  6. ^ Seabaugh, Christian (8 September 2021). "Exclusive: We Drive the 2022 Rivian R1T Off-Road Across the Trans-America Trail, Part 2". Motor Trend. Retrieved 14 September 2021.
  7. ^ Hall, Emme (30 October 2020). "2021 Rivian R1T first drive review: It's going to be a game-changer". CNET. Retrieved 14 September 2021.
  8. ^ Channick, Robert (15 September 2021). "EV truck startup Rivian launches production in Normal". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 16 September 2021.
  9. ^ Wayland, Michael (14 September 2021). "EV startup Rivian beats Tesla, GM, Ford as first automaker to produce electric pickup". CNBC. Retrieved 16 September 2021.


Hello, as User:N2e mentioned, I'm a COI trying to help improve and update the Rivian article. (Feel free to check out what's happening on Talk:Rivian if you have time.) I wanted to add some sources that will improve the scope and depth of information on the Rivian R1T. You'll notice these were all published today due to a media embargo that was in place. I am compiling them as they come out. Hopefully this helps fill in some gaps. Best IanRivian (talk) 18:01, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@IanRivian: Thank you for the sources. However, if you want a specific piece of information added to the article, you should follow the steps listed at WP:EDITREQ. I'd be happy to help. JBchrch talk 18:35, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@JBchrch: As a COI I'm generally reluctant to request changes, but with your leave I'm happy to point to missing info and better sources. I'll start a new section once I have a few ready. Best IanRivian (talk) 00:36, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've now used about a half dozen of the major reliable source media articles as sources in the article. If it would be helpful to other editors, and if IanRivian does not mind mods to his Talk page input above (wiki standard is no changes to other ppl's Talk page comments), I'll add checkmarks to the sources I've actually used in some way to support material in the article. N2e (talk) 03:13, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@N2e: That would be useful to everyone, I think—feel free to add as you see fit. Thanks very much. Best, IanRivian (talk) 14:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
With permission given by the author of the above Talk page section, I've taken the liberty to add a Green checkmarkY (checkmark) by the sources that have been referenced to date to improve the article. Cheers. N2e (talk) 01:20, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Software Section?

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Hello. Below I've gathered some sources for the software specs and details for the [[Rivian R1T]. I am wondering if some or all of this information would improve the article, as software increasingly becomes a defining feature for EVs. Also, I believe some content may be appropriate for the Rivian R1S, or main Rivian page. All of the content sources are formatted. Please let me know if you have any comments or questions. Hope this is helpful! Best IanRivian (talk) 20:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Software

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Rivian’s electric automobiles are software-defined vehicles. A Human-Machine interface is built with Unreal Engine, a product originally developed for gaming by Epic Games.[1]

Rivian’s electric motors are controlled by computers, via written code.[2] Over the air (OTA) updates provide Rivian owners with new features and performance updates when available.[3]

As of April 2022, the R1T had eight drive modes, All-Purpose, Sport, Off-Road Auto, Off-Road Rock Crawl, Off-Road Rally, Off-Road Drift, Conserve and Tow Mode, each created using computer code.[2] In May 2022, the carmaker released its soft sand offroading driving mode.[4]

Driver+

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Driver assist includes highway assist, adaptive cruise control, and lane change assist.[5][6]

Active safety assist includes:[5][6] Lane Keep Assist guides the vehicle back to the original lane when it is likely to stray. Lane Departure Warning Blind Spot Warning notifies drivers when other vehicles are in their blind spot to prevent collisions. Light Safety Parking and Reverse Forward Collision Warning Rear Cross-Traffic Warning Park Assist Trailer Assist Automatic Emergency Braking Dynamic Brake Support

Vehicle security[7] Gear Guard Video uses several of the vehicle's cameras to record a 360-degree view of the vehicle while the owner is gone. Gear Guard Cable is a braided steel cable that can secure items like bikes, kayaks, and skis to the vehicle. Gear Guard Alarm sends a notification to the owner via the Rivian mobile app when something happens to the vehicle.

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Rivian vehicles come with Mapbox navigation software.[8]

HVAC

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Active battery heating through the power electronics system mimics the behavior of a heat pump.[9]

Amazon Alexa voice command technology can control HVAC and open the front trunk ‘frunk.’[10]

Charging

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DC fast chargers add 140 miles of range in 20 minutes.[11] Supports 500 amp charging, with a peak of nearly 200 kilowatts.[12]

Vehicles can be charged at most electric charging stations using the SAE J1772 connector, at Rivian Waypoints throughout the US and Canada, and via its DC fast charging stations. The Rivian App works with the in-vehicle navigation system for charging status information, and locations, rates and directions to EV charging stations on the road. It provides contactless digital payment.[13]

Apps and Modes

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Camp mode includes vehicle leveling, flood light functionality and control over sounds and lights.[14] Pet mode maintains a safe interior temperature while the owner is away.[15] Service mode provides access to vehicle service information.[16]

FleetOS

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In August, 2022, Rivian began offering a subscription service called FleetOS. The subscription service provides fleet owners with vehicle distribution, service telematics software services, and vehicle lifecycle management. FleetOS tracks vehicle ownership from purchasing to resale.[17] IanRivian (talk) 20:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Brassell, Jack (2 February 2022). "Rivian's R1T, The First Electric Truck, Uses Unreal Engine Powered HMI". Beyond Games. Retrieved 12 August 2022.
  2. ^ a b Kennedy, George (19 April 2022). "Rivian R1T Drive Modes: What You Need to Know". US News. Retrieved 7 September 2022.
  3. ^ Doll, Scooter (7 June 2022). "Over-the-air updates: How does each EV automaker compare?". electrek. Retrieved 7 September 2022.
  4. ^ Gunther, Cory (28 May 2022). "Rivian Releases 'Soft Sand Mode' Update Just in Time For Summer". Review Geek. Retrieved 12 August 2022.
  5. ^ a b Akuchie, Michael (9 August 2022). "Rivian Driver+ Safety System For The R1S Explained". Screen Rant. Retrieved 15 August 2022.
  6. ^ a b Singh, Charles (6 May 2022). "Every Feature Included in Rivian Driver Plus". Motor Biscuit. Retrieved 15 August 2022.
  7. ^ Mihalascu, Dan (16 February 2022). "See How Rivian's Gear Guard Tech Helps Keep The R1T Safe". InsideEVs. Retrieved 15 September 2022.
  8. ^ Weintraub, Seth (28 September 2021). "Rivian R1T first drive: Easily the best pickup I've ever driven, both off-road and on". Electrek. Retrieved 15 September 2022.
  9. ^ Gilboy, James (14 December 2021). "Rivian R1T and R1S Lack Heat Pumps, Could Reduce Cold-Weather Range - Updated". The Drive. Retrieved 15 September 2022.
  10. ^ Merano, Maria (15 November 2021). "First Look at Rivian R1T's Alexa-activated frunk control features -Updated". Teslarati. Retrieved 7 August 2022.
  11. ^ Korosec, Kirsten (27 June 2021). "Rivian is turning on the first EV fast chargers in its adventure network". TechCrunch. Retrieved 7 August 2022.
  12. ^ Fitzgerald, Jack (18 August 2022). "Rivian R1T's Fast-Charging Speed Improved with an Over-the-Air Update". Car and Driver. Retrieved 15 September 2022.
  13. ^ Wakefield, Chantel (24 June 2022). "How to Charge a Rivian". Kelley Blue Book. Retrieved 15 September 2022.
  14. ^ Nedelea, Andrei (31 August 2022). "Rivian Camp Mode With Levelling Feature Added Via Software Update". InsideEVs. Retrieved 15 September 2022.
  15. ^ Gauthier, Michael (7 July 2022). "Rivian Adds Tesla-Like Pet Comfort Mode To Keep Dogs Safe This Summer". Carscoops. Retrieved 7 August 2022.
  16. ^ Lau, Alan (4 July 2022). "Our 2022 Rivian R1T Has a Secret Software Mode, and We Accessed It". Motor Trend. Retrieved 7 August 2022.
  17. ^ Merano, Maria (11 August 2022). "Rivian launches FleetOS management system in Amazon EDVs". Teslarati. Retrieved 15 September 2022.
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