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Massive cleanup needed

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Wikipedia is not a collection of miscellaneous information. There should be no list of each and every work of fiction that mentions Lethe. Per WP:TRIVIA, only those where Lethe is a considerable part of the plot must be kept here. - Altenmann >talk 23:19, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Last call: I am going to remove all pieces of poetry for which Lethe is not significant part of plot, nor discussed in secondary sources. - Altenmann >talk 05:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Altenmann I'm wondering about the notability of this entire article as a whole. It mostly seems to have always been a collection of trivia and times the river was mentioned. Unless there's secondary sources discussing representations of the river in popular culture (and material based on such sources cannot fit into the article Lethe), I'm not seeing how this is notable. Opinions? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 02:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First, This article was created as a spinoff from Lethe I guess to declutter the latter. Second, there is an enormous Category:Topics in popular culture. While I understand the perils of WP:OTHERSTUFF, this is not just 2-3 similar article, it is a major tradition. I agree that it is a candidate for deletion. If there are serious "secondary sources discussing representations of the river" in general, these belong in the Lethe#References_in_literature section (or suitably renamed for generalization), and this one is a natural "sidekick" sub-article, which much be based on secondary-source refs for the items in it. So, thank you for reminding, I am starting the cleanup, following the advice from Wikipedia:POPCULTURE. As a first step, I will remove the really trivial items, i.e., the ones which simply mention Lethe. I suggest to leave the items where Lethe is a noticeable element of the plot, even if there is no refs, and tag them individually. If they remain tagged in a month, they will be reevaluated for removal after some amount of "due diligence". If only a handful items remains, they may be merged back into Lethe#References_in_literature (which, BTW, also reserves some scrutiny). In this way we even will not need AfD. If you are still for drastic measures, I cannot stop you, right? --Altenmann >talk 18:29, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, your solution sounds like the best idea! Looking through other AFDs of "X in popular culture" reveals that they mostly get merged back to the parent article in the manner you're describing, so why waste community time when I don't think you'd get pushback from this course of action? I'm really only here because I was monitoring an automated program designed to look for copyright violations called WP:Copypatrol and it gets really mad when people copy poems into articles. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:35, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I think songs with titles involving Lethe may stay; kinda disambig. --Altenmann >talk 18:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]