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Yes, yes... I'm living in Ridgewood now as well and would love to see this article built up. Here's a couple things that could help, but what else do you think? I might check out some other good 'town' articles and see what they do.

  • More Depth (something beyond census data)
  • Couple of good photos

-DjD- 01:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What does this mean? In Geography: "Ridgewood is the best compared to...." --Jctw769 (talk) 02:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I merely added the three Ridgewood-area online blogs in the Local Media section, only to have this deleted a few minutes afterwards. I am not affiliated with these blogs. Why was this deleted? Who decides what goes on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.228.53.10 (talk) 14:16, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Couple changes to notable people needed

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I am not sure how to edit it myself, so I thought I'd leave it here. Under the notable people section, it lists Frankie Muniz as being from Ridgewood. He is from Wood Ridge. Also, it lists Joe Harasmyak as being the coach of Maine, but he is now the defensive coordinator for Rutgers. Rutgersone (talk) 14:57, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose split for notable people from Ridgewood

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The section on notables is excessively long for this article. That is why I split that part and created a list. My edit has been reverted, so I ask editors to chime in here to achieve consensus. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 12:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'll start by taking the claims at face value and demonstrate that this entire effort is part of an abusive pattern of harassment.
    WP:SPLIT, the information page Melchior2006 cites as the rationalization for this particular harassment incident says explicitly "Step 1: Create a discussion", which Melchior2006 refused to do before the edit. Melchor2006 is more than willing to lecture other editors about seeking and obtaining consensus before taking action, as in this edit, with an edit summary of "there is no consensus on talk page yet, hold your horses" or this edit, where Melchior2006 says "Lesson 2 in Wiki-Procedure: Don't alter the section in question until we have reached consensus here."
    User:Melchior2006 started editing 15 years ago. In his first Wikipedia edit ever, he wrote that "I am a theologian, archivist and theater historian working for the Catholic Church; most of my research is devoted to Benedictine-Cistercian biography and patrimony. Research on European prelate monasteries in the Baroque era is my focus in church history. I write about theater studies in various epochs.". In that 15-year period, editing thousands upon thousands of articles, Melchior2006 never edited a single article about a populated place in New Jersey, which would be little surprise, as it's extremely far off from work for the Catholic Church as a theologian and has no apparent connection to Benedictine-Cistercian biography and patrimony.
    This was true until March 8 of this year, when Melchior2006 made this edit stalking me to the article for Collingswood, New Jersey, a revert of my edit to an article the editor had never edited before. Today, the same editor followed me to the article for Ridgewood, New Jersey, again an article the editor had never touched before, with this edit, splitting off a list of notables for an article the editor in question had never touched before and did so for the first time for an article for a populated place, not a school. There is nothing in Melchior2006's editing history that would make sense of these edits, other than an effort to harass me.
    WP:HARASS states that "Harassment is a pattern of repeated offensive behavior that appears to a reasonable observer to intentionally target a specific person or persons." and that "Wikipedia must never be misused to harass anyone, whether or not the subject of the harassment is an editor here. Edits constituting harassment will be reverted, deleted, or suppressed, as appropriate, and editors who engage in harassment are subject to blocking and banning."
    The evidence goes back more than two months. The violations of WP:HARASS are obvious, they are repeated and they are intentionally and maliciously targeted. After receiving this final warning and being told that consequences will only be more severe if this editor continues the pattern of harassment. The editor replied in this edit threatening that "I won't, however, stop editing articles because of your scare tactics."
    This has nothing to do with splitting off a list of notables; this is harassment, plain and simple. Alansohn (talk) 14:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No one is harassing you, as I have said before. You do wonderful work for Wikipedia. However, you do try to own articles. Slowly, you are beginning to harass me. So please stop. If you feel harassed in any way, please seek help. I invite other editors' input on the harassment question and on a few other things about Alansohn's Wiki-comportment. I won't, however, stop editing articles because of his scare tactics. Now, to get to the matter at hand: are there any substantial reasons for reverting the Ridgewood split? -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:48, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This issue of splitting of lists of notables was already litigated on a community-wide basis at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Germantown Friends School alumni. Despite my opinion, community consensus was clear that these lists belong in the parent article unless they ae so large that they overwhelm the article, which is not the case here. Melchior2006 expressed an opinion that the list should be deleted because "list rests on an unreliable NPOV and is probably very one-sided. We have no way of knowing about all the 'other' alumni who are not listed here, perhaps because they don't convey the same flattering message." and even though we're talking about residents here, the same argument would apply here. I can't think of the last time I saw someone create an article and then jump in as the first person arguing to delete it and then voting a second time to oppose a merge. Given the clear community consensus and overwhelming consensus on this matter, in which both Melchior2006 and I were told that such lists should be merged, there appears to be no case here for a standalone list. In the absence of an overriding community-wide consensus to override the results of that AfD, we should repsect that here. I'm happy to merge back to status quo ante and will do so unless there is a change in community consensus. Alansohn (talk) 14:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In this case the list is obviously much too large for the parent article. If you find someone else to support your opinions, then we can look for other solutions, but right now you are clearly the only voice for merging, which would swamp the parent. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 14:42, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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