Talk:Richard J. Bernstein
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[edit]The first external link is not working. Is there an alternative? Bernstein Interview WSS Interview #4: Richard Bernstein, 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vahidmasrour (talk • contribs) 03:00, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Project class ratings
[edit]This article is rated "stub-class" both as a "biography" and in the project category "philosophy/philosophers." Yet the article appears (to me, at least) to be quite complete and detailed. Could someone from one or more of the project assessment teams take a look at it? I am no expert, but it seems to me the article in its present form is at least at the "C" or "B" class level. I am also curious about the basis on which the article is rated (or is it Professor Bernstein's contributions as a philosopher that are being rated?) as being of "low importance." PDGPA (talk) 17:04, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- If you click through the links in the box-thingie, you'll find detailed that "low-importance" refers to his level of importance for understanding the discipline of philosophy as a whole, which, as someone who admires him tremendously, I do think is correct.
- It's start-class (or arguably C-level) because so many of its claims are unsourced. PatrickJWelsh (talk) 21:49, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- I think it's too detailed to be start-class, but I would agree with rating it C-class for the sourcing issues you note. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:56, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Hegel, teaching legacy
[edit]Dick graciously allowed me to participate in his 2016-2017 seminar on Hegel's Logic as an auditor from another university. Although he would not call himself a Hegel scholar, he definitely had a greater command of Hegel's work than many people who do call themselves such. He also has book chapters on Hegel in, for instance, The Pragmatic Turn and Radical Evil. It seems odd to me that this acknowledged influence is barely mentioned in the article.
I was also struck by how proud Dick was of the accomplishments of his students (even if not direct advisees), the fact, for instance, that the previous iteration of that seminar resulted in participants producing at least two books on the Logic. Although I'm not sure how to source it, this is surely part of his legacy. (He remarked once on what a great perk it was to be at such an international institution as the New School on account of being invited to weddings all over the world. The fact that lots of former students were apparently inviting him to their weddings abroad—and he would fly out to attend!—speaks volumes about the quality of those relationships, at least to me.)
I have not read it, but Richard J. Bernstein and the Expansion of American Philosophy: Thinking the Plural is probably a good source for some of this, and likely also for other uncited claims in the article. (I have lots of other stuff on my reading list—but will update myself, of course, if I somehow still get to it before anyone else does.)
My thanks to everyone for their work on this page— PatrickJWelsh (talk) 21:42, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- I decided to go ahead and start on this after all. Working just from the three introductory pieces, I found and have added some supporting citations for misc biographical details.
- There is also enough material to add a section on his teaching, which I will probably do.
- The book as a whole would be a good resource for supporting claims made in the section on Philosophical Themes, but I'm probably not going to do all that. PatrickJWelsh (talk) 20:49, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
NSSR Dean's notice to the community of Dick's death
[edit]Another source for some of the unsourced claims: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1heX0PiRW4XX7gqi8MGveE36ToQRnS6W8/view. (And also just a nice tribute.) PatrickJWelsh (talk) 00:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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