Talk:Resonance method of ice destruction

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Improving the article

This article needs much improvement. Basically it is a very rough (likely automatic) translation of the corresponding Russian wiki article which itself has problems. Also, I'm not sure, but this article perhaps may be renamed into the resonance icebreaking or resonant icebreaking. GreyHood ^Talk 21:03, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd want to research established English-language sources for this, and first see if there's an established precedent. Otherwise I'd go with resonant icebreaking, or maybe (perhaps less favoured) icebreaking by resonance.

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Just some ideas: Andy Dingley (talk) 21:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Context. It needs to establish that this is a Russian technique, and icebreaking is a major topic for the White Sea, which is itself a significant shipping route.

Chronology. When did this technique first develop?

Effectiveness. How much ice can this deal with? What practical effect does this have on traffic, i.e. for what part of the year is this a capable and practical technique?

Adoption. Is this technique in practical commercial use?

As far as I understand there are two variants of application of the method: hovercrafts and submarines (subs may drain their ballast tanks at a special speed). GreyHood ^Talk 22:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In fact the method is important in context of almost the entire Russian coastline, and especially important in the context of Siberian rivers since it is more effective to use hovercrafts in the shallow water than conventional icebreakers. White Sea is just a small portion of the Arctic, and btw the inventor seems to live and work in the Russian Far East (Komsomolsk-on-Amur). According to the patents, the technique seems to originate from 1992-93, or even from 1983 according to the first publications of the idea and the first experiments with real hovercrafts. From the Russian version of the article it seems that almost any ice can be dealt with if the vehicle can produce enough pressure at the resonant speed (the bigger the vehicle, the stronger it is, just as with common icebreakers usually), but so far I can't see if there are any possibilities to crush the pack ice of the Central Arctic with this method (perhaps large submarines could do it?). As for the adoption, this technology seems to have been tested on hovercrafts, but it is unclear if it was put into commercial use. Some guy from the ru-wiki proposal for the deletion of the corresponding article (because of its initially low quality and no sources, which later were added) claims that this technology is already used. But I don't think that the usage is wide in scale anyway. According to this Google translation of an application form on some investment fair the technology is at the stage of idea and of technical documentation (this seems to mean that while it has been tested on common hovercrafts, no specifically modified crafts have been built yet). GreyHood ^Talk 22:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tidy up

I have tidied up the English. Please check that I have not introduced any errors. Biscuittin (talk) 20:25, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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