Talk:Ren (philosophy)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Ren (philosophy) article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects.

China

	China portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject China, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of China related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChinaWikipedia:WikiProject ChinaTemplate:WikiProject ChinaChina-related articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
	This article has been automatically rated by a bot or other tool because one or more other projects use this class. Please ensure the assessment is correct before removing the `\|auto=` parameter.

Philosophy: Ethics / Social and political / Eastern Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Philosophy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of content related to philosophy on Wikipedia. If you would like to support the project, please visit the project page, where you can get more details on how you can help, and where you can join the general discussion about philosophy content on Wikipedia.PhilosophyWikipedia:WikiProject PhilosophyTemplate:WikiProject PhilosophyPhilosophy articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Associated task forces:
/
	Ethics
	Social and political philosophy
	Eastern philosophy

East Asia (defunct)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject East Asia, a project which is currently considered to be defunct.East AsiaWikipedia:WikiProject East AsiaTemplate:WikiProject East AsiaEast Asia articles

Religion Top‑importance

	Religion portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Religion, a project to improve Wikipedia's articles on Religion-related subjects. Please participate by editing the article, and help us assess and improve articles to good and 1.0 standards, or visit the wikiproject page for more details.ReligionWikipedia:WikiProject ReligionTemplate:WikiProject ReligionReligion articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

This article was the subject of an educational assignment that ended on 20 November 2008. Further details are available here.

Cleanup

This article does not include characters, which is an issue because using romanizations only is extremely ambiguous; I was unable to determine the correct characters. Also, the section titled "The Golden Rule" includes links to several irrelevant pages (eg. dead link hsin and irrelevant link to ching), and I was unable to find the correct pages. Luolimao (talk) 17:55, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

§ deletion

rm

The Golden Rule

Speculation about Confucius' choice of word, and his own words of defining it by Ai, as love of others has led to the belief that rén is the Confucian route to the "Golden Rule".

Moreover, Confucius was concerned with peoples' individual development, which he maintained took place within the context of human relationships. Ritual and filial piety are the ways in which one should act toward others from an underlying attitude of humaneness. Confucius' concept of humaneness, rén, is probably best expressed in the Confucian version of the Ethic of Reciprocity: What you do not wish for yourself, do not do to others.

Confucius' Golden Rule of Being entails doing things for others that you would want them to do to you in return, as well as not doing things to others that you would not want to experience in return. Hence, it expands the Golden Rule into a positive prescription of actions as well as a negative proscription.

Because

Crude attempt to force core Chinese culture into Abrahamic tradition which violates several established policies. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 09:31, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get what you're saying about Abrahamic tradition. The Golden Rule is evidenced in all kinds of cultural traditions; just see the Wikipedia article on it. So this paragraph could probably go back if it gets sourced. —pfahlstrom (talk) 23:03, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edit

While copyediting and tracking down references, I looked into "The Boston Society of Confucius" and its journal "Archives of the Boston Society of Confucius". That journal appears to have had a single issue, in 2019. All of the articles in that issue are by Gang Xu. The website of The Boston Society of Confucius is also Gang Xu's personal website on which he posts multi-part descriptions of his divorce trial and other legal difficulties that at first glance strike me as being in the unhinged genre. I think under Wikipedia:SPS this stuff will have to go for now. —Moorlock (talk) 23:59, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]