Talk:Religion in Nigeria

Dogwhistle?

Opening any article with a claim that muslims are rapidly outbreeding the christian population and replacing makes me question the editors motives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.56.67 (talk) 00:59, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

unsourced material

A lot of the info in some of the Christianity subsections is unsourced. Qxu21 (talk) 02:25, 7 November 2019 (UTC) Possibly right. Suspect the Combination with traditional practices and Social class and religion sections. Bokoharamwatch (talk) 18:15, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: ENGW3303 Adv Writing for Environmental Professions 12176

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 18 January 2022 and 30 April 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): LilyWiki123 (article contribs). Edits: adding updated citations and additional information to "Christian distribution" section

Pie charts take 2

Three Pie charts are at least two too many and given the unreliable nature of statistics for religion in Nigeria even 1 is too many and gives the appearance of accuracy that does not exist. To quote one source "As a consequence of the lack of census data on religious identification in recent years, and the contested figures for the past, ‘accurate statistics for each tradition are difficult to come by and are largely a matter of conjecture’ (Adogame 2010: 479), and one does find references to dubious sources"(McKinnon, Andrew (2021). "Christians, Muslims and Traditional Worshippers in Nigeria: Estimating the Relative Proportions from Eleven Nationally Representative Social Surveys". Review of Religious Research. 63 (2): 303–315. doi:10.1007/s13644-021-00450-5. ISSN 0034-673X.). The overall conclusion was that Christians/Muslims were each about half the population but the percentage of Christians was declining. Erp (talk) 02:47, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

The lead is more of a summary and the three pie charts reflect the unqiue nuance here as they are pretty much accurate estimations based of three esteemed sources which vary with their methodoloigies when it comes to gathering the data about religion in nigeria I don't see why it should be removed. Barbardo (talk) 03:44, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

And they are all estimates and clutter up the intro. We had a discussion on this a few years ago (see above). Better I think to have some pictures rather than mislead people about the accuracy of the estimates (and some of these are projections the third chart, Pew–Templeton Global Religious Futures, is a projection written in 2015 and using far older data). Also Arda, the middle chart, is a repository of sources each of which has to be evaluated in its own right; citing Arda is a bit like citing the public library. In this particular case it is using the World Religion Database which has nice looking numbers but fairly frequently doesn't indicate where they got them (its precision on North Korean figures is frankly unbelievable). There is a reason Arda is listed as iffy in Wikipedia's page on reliable sources WP:RS/P. The first chart lists Statista with Wikipedia lists as generally unreliable along with the CIA World Factbook (which rarely lists its sources). Pew itself is usually reliable but Pew–Templeton Global Religious Futures which is what the third chart is drawing from falls in the iffy category. Erp (talk) 04:43, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

I see your point it does clutter the intro but I feel it should still remain as it does potray the accurate estimations based on various factors both Pew and the World religion estimation has come up with and used but I am happy enough to agree for it to be removed if it is a issue. Barbardo (talk) 15:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

I think McKinnon 2021 is the most reliable and he isn't willing to give hard figures. A suggestion might be a table in the survey section showing different estimates (but don't use Statista and probably not World Religion Database). A table makes it easier for the reader to compare different estimates. Erp (talk) 04:23, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

I added the statistics in the lead if you think they should be removed please do let me know. Barbardo (talk) 01:38, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Moved to the section now known as Religious Demographics. Intros are suppose to be shortish and expand later on in the article Erp (talk) 03:30, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Barbado here is a 2023 source estimating that Christians are greater than 50% of Nigerians.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22110+million+christians+in+Nigeria+alone%22&client=ms-android-uscellular-us-revc&sca_esv=558977329&sxsrf=AB5stBjq-0cWkG7DtH0uzMuTl0sF4ipegg%3A1692680287770&ei=X0DkZM3QLoSeptQPg_-pkAw&oq=%22110+million+christians+in+Nigeria+alone%22&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIikiMTEwIG1pbGxpb24gY2hyaXN0aWFucyBpbiBOaWdlcmlhIGFsb25lIkgAUABYAHAAeACQAQCYAQCgAQCqAQC4AQPIAQDiAwQYACBB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp 166.181.80.89 (talk) 05:00, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/23969393221121145?icid=int.sj-full-text.similar-articles.3

The journal mentioned doesn't state over 50% but around 50% which is already been mentioned. Barbardo (talk) 14:04, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Suspicious claim in 'Combination with traditional practices'

In Combination with traditional practices in the larger Christianity section, the except "However Christianity cannot be done with traditional practices ... a mixture of the both of them neither Christianity nor African Traditional Religion." appears to be either personal opinion which violates NPOV, or a factual claim without references. If no solution is provided to this, this except must be erased from the article. Factthinker (talk) 21:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC)