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Since the page title implies that the article is about the Regio Songfestival in general, but a significant portion of it centers on the inaugural edition in 2023, I propose that the section about the 2023 edition is split into a seperate page called Regio Songfestival 2023. Mr. Thistle (talk) 23:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion splitting at this stage would be premature. As the event has not even been held once, having two separate articles on the topic does not make sense. Once the event has been established and a second edition has been confirmed, at that point splitting the article would be possible. As an example, take American Song Contest, which covers all aspects of that contest within only one article, including the build-up, production and results. The same should be achieved with this article now and conversations about splitting parked until the event requires multiple articles. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 09:36, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hadn't realised about the 1995 edition, however I still believe the article is best served by continuing to host the 2023 contest on this article for now. I don't believe that the notability requirements have been met to split these out at this stage, and I would suggest that for now adding information from the 1995 draft to this article would make more sense. In my mind, one article which is comprehensive and covers everything about the subject is better than three stubs. Should the contest become established and a third edition is held in 2024, at that point I believe splitting this information into the four articles (main, 1995, 2023 and 2024) would make sense, but we just don't know at this stage if there will be appetite after this year for the contest to continue. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:39, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The use of flag icons in this article are an inappropriate use per the the English Wikipedia's manual of style. Flag icons should serve an encyclopedic purpose. They should provide additional useful information on the article subject. The names of the regions are clearly used and these flag icons do not provide additional useful information. They serve no navigational function. Subnational flags (regions, cities, etc.) should generally be used only when directly relevant to the article.They do not meet the criteria for use in this article.Isaidnoway(talk)22:35, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. Flag icons are commonly used in this way in WP:EUROVISION articles. This includes the use of subnational flags – see for instance American Song Contest, Bundesvision Song Contest and Turkvision Song Contest. They are directly relevant to the article, because the subject is a competition between regions. The flag icons provide visual cues, emphasizing the representative affiliation of the competing entries, and are therefore pertinent to the purpose of the tables themselves. This is comparable to the use of (subnational) flag icons in articles about sporting events, including Island Games and Non-FIFA international football, and is in line with the MOS:FLAGS guideline. Also, the flags do actually convey useful additional information for some readers: without the flags, 'Groningen' could refer to either Groningen or Groningen, 'Limburg' to either Limburg or Limburg, and 'Utrecht' to either Utrecht or Utrecht. — Ætoms[talk]20:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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