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	This article was accepted on 23 June 2009 by reviewer MSGJ (talk · contribs).

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It was declined before for lack of sources, no sources added from what I can se. Resubmitting should only happen if you actually address the problems first.MPJ-DK (talk) 21:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you tell us which of the criteria at WP:AUTHOR this person satisfies? Also the article is written in a slightly biased way, e.g. "She made an auspicious debut", and some of the sentences are subjective, e.g. " She is known for her style full of wit and irony." These need to be fixed. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

TRYING TO RESPOND TO YOUR DOUBTS. THIS ENTRYFOLLOWS PUBLIC STATEMENTS ABOUT THE AUTHOR AT AN EVENT AT BROWN UNIVERSITY, BRAZILIAN LITERATURE IN AN INTER AMERICAN CONTEXT, MAY 2009.

CATEGORY: "Creative professional WP:AUTHOR ... authors, ... filmmakers, " The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors. // PER CRITICAL RECEPTION IN BRASIL AND RECENT ATTENTION IN USA The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique. / ORIGINATOR OF ANIMAL RIGHTS LIT The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews./ YES THERE IS A CRITICAL BIBLIOGRAPHY, AS CITED

STYLE POINTS WILL BE ADDRESSED NOW TOO.

OBLIGED AGAIN.

forgot to sign, here goes again:

SIGNED Charlesaperrone (talk) 16:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I think maybe she is borderline notability. If you could find some sources for the prizes she has won it would help. Also, could you wikify the whole article? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HELP! SOMEONE HACKED INTO THIS PAGE WITH FAKE HEIGHT AND WEIGHT AND NET WORTH INFO AND WE CANNOT FIGURE OUT HOW TO DELETE. IT DOES NOT SHOW UP IN THE EDIT WINDOW! AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE UNDER AUTHORITY CONTROL. WE DID DELETE THE REFERENCES BUT THE VALID ONE DISAPPEARED TOO. WEIRD. Charlesaperrone (talk) 20:52, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since anyone with an internet connection can edit this article, "hacked" isn't really the word. But it wasn't a good edit, and has been dealt with. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:30, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know if the following is what you are seeking. I can work on the formatting after content is approved. thanks again

In English:

General information with a link to the Wikipedia Brazilian entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabuti_Award

Preface of Rheda's translated works (University of Texas Press) which mentions the Jabuti award: http://books.google.com/books?id=l7FEXHfSVdwC&pg=PR8&lpg=PR8&dq=Regina+Rheda+Jabuti+prize&source=bl&ots=y_mECK8uIx&sig=Icm7z0GY_jLac3xPkN1oVEUVieQ&hl=en&ei=mQQ0SsmcGYTEM5ij-YkK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5

Another Brazilian who lives in US who won the Jabuti and (in another categry): Marcelo Gleiser SEE SECOND LINE BELOW THE TITLE "HONORS AND AWARDS": http://www.dartmouth.edu/~physics/faculty/gleiser.html

In Portuguese:

General information: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prêmio_Jabuti_de_Literatura

List of award winners of Jabuti: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Lista_de_ganhadores_do_Prêmio_Jabuti

Charlesaperrone (talk) 18:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, not really. The Wikipedia links are not what we call reliable. What we need is a reliable source which verifies that she has won this award. This could be a newspaper article, or an official website of the organisation. English is preferred, but Portguese would be fine too. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

@MSGJ I found one, so I added it. A little late perhaps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:07, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of potential sources, moved from the article

If some of the following are useful as references, add them as references. Guidance at WP:TUTORIAL.

Christopher Dunn: Introduction to First World Third Class and Other Tales of the Global Mix. Austin: University of Texas Press, 2005.
Maria Cláudia André and Eva Paulino Bueno, editors. Latin American Women Writers: An Encyclopedia. New York: Routledge, 2008.
Earl E. Fitz and Elizabeth Lowe. Translation and the Rise of Inter-American Literature. University Press of Florida, 2007.
Earl E. Fitz. Inter-American Literature: A Concise History. The Scholar Collection, 2012. (473 pp.) www.academicpub.com
Earl E. Fitz. Inter-American Literary History: Six Critical Periods. Frankfurt am Main, Germany: Peter Lang Edition, 2017. (436 pp). Interamericana Series.
Coelho, Nelly Novaes. Dicionário crítico de escritoras brasileiras 1711-2001. São Paulo: Escrituras, 2002. p. 559.
David William Foster. "Days and Nights at the Copan: Regina Rheda's Arca sem Noé." São Paulo: Perspectives on the City and Cultural Production (Gainesville: U P Florida, 2011).
David William Foster. "Days and Nights at the Copan: Regina Rheda's Arca sem Noé". In Tradições portuguesas/Portuguese Traditions: In Honor of Claude L. Hulet. Edited by Frank Fagundes and Irene Maria F. Blayer.San Jose, Calif.: Portuguese Heritage Publications of California, 2007. 121-29.
Prêmio Jabuti: 50 anos. São Paulo: Câmara Brasileira do Livro: Imprensa Oficial do Estado de São Paulo, 2008. ISBN 978-85-7060-647-1
Kathy S. Leonard. Latin American Women Writers. Scarecrow Press, 2007. ISBN 0810860155
Jairo Ferreira. Cinema de Invenção. Editora Max Limonad/Embrafilme, 1986.
Alexandra Isfahani-Hammond. "Humana festa: zoo-romance interamericano e pós-escravista de Regina Rheda". In Pensar/escrever o animal: ensaios de zoopoética e biopolítica. Org.: Maria Esther Maciel. Santa Catarina: Editora UFSC, 2011.
Maria Esther Maciel. Literatura e Animalidade. Editora Civilização Brasileira, 2016.
Sic Literary Journal (University of Zadar, Croatia).
YouTube. Folguedos no Firmamento. (Short film. With English subtitles).
Cinemateca Brasileira: Regina Rheda

Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:57, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cinemateca Brasileira: Regina Rheda
- This one is, afaict with archive.org [1], a search result in a database and not in itself useful as a source. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Prêmio Jabuti: 50 anos. São Paulo: Câmara Brasileira do Livro: Imprensa Oficial do Estado de São Paulo, 2008. ISBN 978-85-7060-647-1
- Afaict [2] it doesn't mention Rheda. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:32, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
YouTube. Folguedos no Firmamento. (Short film. With English subtitles).
- Added to EL-section for now, may be ok-ish as EL. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:27, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sic Literary Journal (University of Zadar, Croatia).
- Way too unspecific. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:32, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Christopher Dunn: Introduction to First World Third Class and Other Tales of the Global Mix. Austin: University of Texas Press, 2005.
- This [3] is published and in-depth, but IMO not independent since it's the intro to her book. May have some use with care and in-text attribution. Also, who is Christopher Dunn? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:23, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Christopher Dunn is a scholar at Tulane University, New Orleans: Professor Department of Spanish & Portuguese Tulane ... Christopher Dunn received his Ph.D. in Luso-Brazilian Studies from Brown University etc.

As for the citation needed in “thought-provoking”, here’s the source. Could you please do this?:

Brazilians are natural comparatists. Prof. Earf Fitz's interview with Revista Brasileira de Literatura Comparada. 24 (45). Jan Apr 2022. Scielo Brazil.

https://www.scielo.br/j/rblc/a/Msb3jfT4gRgLkfhfsRFWN5y/?format=html&lang=en Leminhor (talk) 15:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and added. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:29, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. But I think the words — witty and thought-provoking [prose fiction] — should be kept in the entry because the source says “ We regard [Rheda’s stories] as funny and poignant, but thought provoking as well.” Leminhor (talk) 16:55, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And that's in the article, though I excluded his students. But for this to be a general statement in the WP:LEAD, much stronger sources are needed. We can say that someone has published novels, that they've sold a lot of books, that they've won awards, but to declare in WP:s voice that they are witty and thought-provoking is something else, WP:PROMO. But we can mention that Fitz thought so, and if there's other WP:RS "reception", we can include that too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:15, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Maria Cláudia André and Eva Paulino Bueno, editors. Latin American Women Writers: An Encyclopedia. New York: Routledge, 2008.
- Quite useful, and it's free to register at archive.org. The author of the entry [4] is [5]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:46, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Very good! Also: I suggest that you replace the sentence *Academic Earl Fitz.... thought-provoking as well* with the sentence *Brazilianist Earl Fitz includes Rheda among his favorite Brazilian contemporary writers, calling her short fictions "funny and poignant, but thought provoking as well.".* Here are the citations: Brazilianist [ Wikipedia page Brazilianist]. Earl E. Fitz [3 citations: 1) his curriculum: https://as.vanderbilt.edu/photos/spanish-and-portuguese/files/EEFitzCV2022.pdf. It says: Mid-Atlantic Association of Luso-Brazilianists 1. Founding member, 1986; 2) https://thedeviltopayinthebacklands.wordpress.com/2010/10/14/interview-with-dr-earl-e-fitz/ It bears the Vanderbilt University logo and says: in my own work, as a Brazilianist, a Latin Americanist, as a comparatist, and as an inter-Americanist. 3) https://muse.jhu.edu/article/192624 . It says: The relative obscurity of Brazil on the international literary scene, particularly when compared to Spanish America after the so-called "boom" years, has long been a cause for consternation among Brazilianist academic circles. In his ambitious literary survey Brazilian Narrative Traditions in a Comparative Context, Earl E. Fitz makes a persuasive case for reevaluating Brazil's contribution ] Thanks. Leminhor (talk) 18:10, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn’t the editors’ names, Maria Cláudia André and Eva Paulino Bueno, appear in the Reference as well? Leminhor (talk) 18:32, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

About the reference *Latin American Women Writers: An Encyclopedia. New York.*: shouldn’t the names of the editors (Maria Cláudia André and Eva Paulino Bueno) and the name of the publisher (Routledge) appear in the reference too? Leminhor (talk) 17:07, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]