Talk:Red Forman

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World War II

Red wasn't a Marine. He was always with the Navy. In the Memorial Day episode he wears a Navy Chief Petty Officer's uniform, and he takes great pride in the fact that he once "punched out a Marine". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.180.210.37 (talk • contribs) 01:11, October 24, 2005 (UTC)

I just watched that episode, his uniform has the insignia of a Chief Petty Officer. What's weird about the Navy is that most of their ranks are some sort of petty officer. Chief Petty Officer is roughly similar to a Staff Sergeant in the army. Nathan (talk) 02:40, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

--- False. A Navy Chief Petty Officer is the paygrade E-7, the Staff Sergeant is an E-6. The Army equivalent would be Sergeant First Class. --- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yabbadabbadoobie (talk • contribs) 22:59, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If he was born in 1927, then that means he had to lie about his age to get into the Navy. The youngest recruits allowed are 17. The Pacific war would've been in full swing in 1942, and Red would've only been 15. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.111.197.48 (talk • contribs) 20:05, March 16, 2006 (UTC)

He could have only served later in the war, but I remember Kitty saying to him "are you flashing back to Guadacanal?" which was 1942-43. I guess they didn't think this through all the way.--Cms479 20:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I've always found that somewhat strange about him. He did mention fighting at Guadalcanal, which would of put him at a young age of 15. Furthermore, what business would he as a sailor have doing what a marine or army man would be? His service is some what convoluted.68.161.214.132 04:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, in the Pacific, it was mostly marines doing ground fighting. If he was in fact in the Navy, then that means he could've either have been part of the Navy's Seabees Construction unit or he could've been a Navy Corpsman. Marines don't have their own medics as far as I know. Marines use Navy Corpsmen and pharmacists as their battlefield medics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.82.66.196 (talk • contribs) 16:35, May 25, 2006 (UTC)

I'm trying to find the quote where he tells Eric that "He and God are good." The line happens when he talks about watching his destroyer go down in the Pacific. Anyone?

The part where there's a list of "three reasons" why Red doesn't consider Eric a man had four reasons... and besides I don't think this section is particularly necessary. Therefore, I'm getting rid of it.--Cms479 20:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's the episode where Eric and Laurie don't want to go to church after Kitty decides it's their choice whether or not they go. S2E23 "Holy Crap!" Nathan (talk) 02:40, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Having a 50th birthday in season two doesn't firmly determine that he lied to get into the navy. A two year lapse over the span of Red's life would not be surprising, especially seeing as Eric was 17 for two years. There were four years over the course of eight seasons and yet every real year had holiday seasons, creating an average of two of each holiday per year. In short, the timeline is messed up. Unless the lying to get into the military is relevant in the series, I move that it be stricken. --horsedreamer 17:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it may not have much to do directly with the story, but it may show a glimpse of why he's such a hardass.

A child could get into the service at 17 provided he had parental permission or he just lied because they didn't do extensive search his back then. However, Red Forman serving at Guadalcanal is a complete inaccuracy. The only way of 14 or 15 year old child would be able to serve without providing proof is if that child already had a full beard, sounded like a full grown man and the whole nine. Logically speaking, this would not be plausible. The fact that I pointed out that it's a major and accuracy in red forman's age, should definitely be left on this page. I've done addendums to Red Forman Story 3 times now and it keeps being deleted. Leave it because it's accurate. Basskent77 (talk) 16:01, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Basskent77, your additions have been reverted for the same reason both times,[1][2] it constitutes unsourced original research. Personal commentary is not permitted. Everything added to Wikipedia must be supported by third party sources. In fiction, anything can happen. Red could have said he was the president of Bulgaria and started World War III and we just have to accept it. That's the nature of fiction. It's made up and doesn't have to comply with the rules of the real world. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:24, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup and organization

I'm adding a cleanup tag to this article because the information contained in the biography is slightly disorganized and redundant in parts. Expect major changes within the next couple of days. Putz 16:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification

"Red Forman will be played by Burt Reynolds in the Movie Version of That '70s Show." Is this true?

No, it's not. Kurtwood Smith agreed to reprise his role. Debra Jo Rupp, however, did not. When is the movie comming out? I heard the year would be 2010 or 2011.99.247.202.127 (talk) 20:50, 18 August 2008 (UTC)Imafannadeal[reply]

Red Forman did not serve at Guadalcanal. That would have made him roughly 14 or 15 years old. I guess they'd did not think that one through. I keep adding it into his military career and history but somebody keeps deleting my passage. I guess they don't like the doors being blown off Basskent77 (talk) 21:28, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

I'm pretty sure the Formans are Catholic, because their clergyman is "Father Bob". As far as I know, only Catholics call clergy "Father". There are Catholics (mostly of German descent) in Wisconsin.
--thx1138 (talk) 22:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, he's not. He's called "Pastor Bob". "Pastor" is a typical Protestant title for the preaching minister at the church. They are most likely Lutheran, but that's just a guess. But they are definitely not Catholic.
--CastingCrowns (talk) 23:43, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He's Pastor Dave.
--Ingridjames (talk) 04:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, some US Episcopalians (they are likely to be described as "High Church" Ep'ns) are likely to use "Father" as the title of all clergy ordained above the rank of Deacon.
--Jerzy•t 04:26, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Milwaukee Brewers

So we've seen on the show that Red is a Green Bay Packers fan and a Milwaukee Bucks fan, But is he a Milwaukee Brewers fan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewSa888 (talk • contribs) 19:02, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, he hates the Vikings (as many Packer fans do) 24.130.164.66 (talk) 05:25, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Red would have most likely been a Milwaukee Braves fan, since they were the Wisconsin Pro Baseball team in the 50s and 60s.

Red would have been a fairly old man the first year that the Pilots were in Milwaukee, as the Brewers, was 1970. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.210.55 (talk • contribs) 00:23, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Uncle Paul?

Who is the Uncle Paul in the episode Sunday, Bloody Sunday? Is that another brother of Red's? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ingridjames (talk • contribs) 04:46, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Red's brother. He also had 2 other brothers, Marty and Jerry. I believe he is the 2nd oldest of 4 boys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.87.88.178 (talk) 01:24, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Red" Foreman - Name

I doubt his first name given at birth was "Red". Any idea what original first name was? Any idea of story behind how got nickname? Red seems an odd nickname for person that era for the slang reference to communists as "red" in that era. I expecting never any references to this during show or it would already have been on Wikipedia. Wfoj2 (talk) 16:26, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Late reply, but I came here to look this up. In S01E23 he mentions that his mother was the first person to call him "Red". --Fidepus (talk) 16:36, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

He had red hair. 2600:100B:B135:8DC5:D9CA:8FAA:EB81:CC32 (talk) 01:25, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect discussion:

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Forman or Foreman

The name is spelled both ways. Can anyone find a source to prove which is correct, Forman or Foreman? My spell checker doesn't recognize Forman so I tend to believe Foreman is correct. But the spell checker doesn't know all valid words and names so I can't be sure. Urbanus Secundus (talk) 15:17, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Foreman" probably is referring to the job.

Red Forman for President 2020

It's a lot of merchandise out there... relevant? Drsruli (talk) 23:48, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]