Talk:Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic/GA1
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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 14:18, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I'm MarioSoulTruthFan and I'll be reviewing this article in the next days. Do not make changes until I say so. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:18, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Infobox
[edit]- How do you know when it recorded?
- Done Now sourced elsewhere in the article :).
- Genre?
- Done
- You should also add the "Soul" genre in the second source.
- Done I did so now Carbrera (talk) 19:12, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- You should also add the "Soul" genre in the second source.
- Done
Lead
[edit]- "American recording artist Prince, under the unpronounceable "Love Symbol", as shown on the album cover". → If I remove the sentences with additional information it makes no sense. Re-write
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- "the album features more commercial and radio-friendly material". → which album?
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- "completed a "sensual" cover of Crow's 1996 single "Everyday Is a Winding Road"". → not in the body of the article.
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- "the album was conceived as a return to mass markets after Prince spent several years without significant public attention." → same issue as previous
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- "the album features more commercial and radio-friendly material." → one song in the body of the article, not the entire album.
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- ,achieved modest success, → bias, unless some reviewer as said that.
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- "peaking at number 63 on the Billboard Hot 100 and becoming the album's only charted song".→ peaked...became...
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Recording and release
[edit]- However, recording and writing sessions began to be unfruitful, and the entire project was abandoned. → However, as soon as the recording and writing sessions began to be unfruitful, the entire project was abandoned.
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- Name the studios after the cities and/or states.
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- and London, England, immediately following the release of his previous studio album, The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale (1999), released just three months prior. → and London, England, just after the release of his previous studio album, The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale (1999), three months prior.
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- See others links above for dates of release.
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- See one of the links I posted above for more information to add here.
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- Change the name to "Background and release" since now you have information on the artwork of the album.
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Composition
[edit]- "Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic departs from the use of soul on The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale." → it does depart but not completly. So re-arrange that.
- Done Reworded. Carbrera (talk) 19:17, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- "and is his one of Prince's "most pop-oriented" tracks in years" → and is one of Prince's "most pop-oriented" tracks in years
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- "Tangerine" is a ballad that contains "savvy pop" elements, comparable to Prince's previous efforts → "savvy pop" elements are left to "So Far, So Pleased"; what do you mean with "comparable to Prince's previous efforts" it's not stated nothing like that in the article?
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- the track was produced to appeal to modern radio and the mainstream crowd. → this is not in the source provided.
- Done Removed.
- "Segue II" is again a silent track, followed by promotional singles "Man'O'War" and "Baby Knows", the former of which containing "falsetto soul" and the latter featuring contributions from Crow, including her vocals and use of a harmonica. → wrong reference,the review is not on Discogs for sure, also remove that source.
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- You wave a couple of reviews in the CD universe reference use them, structuring them appropriately and according to individual references. For example: "Rolling Stone Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic review". United States: Rolling Stone. January 1, 2000: 57.
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Promotion
[edit]- Unlike Prince's previous albums, he did not embark on a concert tour to promote Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic. → re-phrase
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- Internet movie database is not a reliable source, replace it.
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- Unlike his previous releases, the remix album was not made commercially available, so the album was also unable to chart. → needs source
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Singles
[edit]- "The remixes also included vocals from Eve". → source
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- remove the Discogs reference and replace it by any other.
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- "So Far, So Pleased", featuring guest vocals from Gwen Stefani, and "Hot Wit' U", featuring guest vocals from Eve → "So Far, So Pleased" and "Hot Wit' U", featuring guest vocals from Gwen Stefani and by Eve, respectively.
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- "Man'O'War" → link it
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Critical reception
[edit]- Remove from the Album ratings box the reviews that say positive, favorable etc, anyone can change that and sounds bias.
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- Link music critics → music journalism
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- the included collaborations → the collaborations
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- to a symbol." → to a symbol".
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- trying to recapture the spirit of '99." → same as previous
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- In the end of this GA review I believe you have at least more two reviews I added the links.
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Commercial performance
[edit]- A success on → Despite that, it was able to peak at number eight
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- Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs → Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Albums
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- unsuccessful → failed to achieve any notability
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Track listing
[edit]- All songs written and produced by Prince, except "Everyday Is a Winding Road", which was written by Sheryl Crow, Jeff Trott and Brian McLeod. → needs reference.
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Credits and personnel
[edit]- Mike Scott - guitar (on #3) → Mike Scott - guitar (3)
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- That's not the official prince website, remove that reference.
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- Use " –" instead of "-" (click edit to copy paste properly)
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Charts
[edit]- Great.
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Certifications
[edit]- Add accessdate.
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- Fine
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Release history
[edit]- The release was not worlwide.
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- Done (This source must be mistaken since every other source says the 2nd, except this one says the following week.)
- Done (Didn't add since it only said 1999) → it says "CD (15 novembre 1999)"
References
[edit]- Remove all the Discogs references.
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- robertchristgau.com → Robert Christgau
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- iTunes, AllMusic, MTV.com → nonitalic
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- MTV.com → link it once; Amazon.com → only link it once
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Overall GA review
[edit]This sources could and should be used in the article. They are not only reliable but they have valid information, I just googled "Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic" and all of these appear in the first 10 pages.
- http://www.peta.org/blog/hes-real-prince/ → some information that could be used to improve the article.
- Done Used.
- http://www.stereogum.com/1685960/prince-albums-from-worst-to-best/franchises/counting-down/attachment/raveun2thejoyfantastic/ → as previous
- Done Used.
- https://www.yahoo.com/music/princes-paisley-archives-10-items-warners-vault-wed-180207098.html → same
- Done Used.
- @MarioSoulTruthFan: I have used this source. However, it is from Billboard so it is listed as such within the article. Carbrera (talk) 19:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- Done Used.
- http://www.hotpress.com/Prince/music/reviews/albums/Rave-Un2-To-The-Joy-Fantastic/466789.html → same
- Done Used.
- Done Used.
- @Carbrera: All in all, this article has some issues regarding not only prose and writing but also references; not to mention lack of information that can be easily found as I have posted just above. I'll put this article on hold (it's not a quick fail) and I will give you 2 weeks to address all of these issues, this includes the expansion of the per said article with not only the references I posted but also others you can easily find. Good luck MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:57, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
- Oh gosh I completely forgot about this article! I'm gonna be gone in a few days for two weeks; do you think I could have a bit more time going at this article?? Thanks! Carbrera (talk) 15:03, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- @Carbrera: Sure how long? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:21, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
- MarioSoulTruthFan, Carbrera, I only see one minor edit in the nearly six weeks since the above exchange. Perhaps a firm deadline could be set for the work to be done, assuming the review hasn't run out of time? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:34, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: I have been out of town for the last couple of weeks. He missed the first topics and failed to correct the websites. I will warn Carbrera.
- @Carbrera: You must address the final issues, otherwise I will fail this article. You have one week, on September 3, 2016 if nothing has been done I will fail the article. Best regards, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 02:03, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
- @MarioSoulTruthFan and MarioSoulTruthFan: I believe I took care of it? Thanks for your leniency. Carbrera (talk) 03:44, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- MarioSoulTruthFan, Carbrera, I only see one minor edit in the nearly six weeks since the above exchange. Perhaps a firm deadline could be set for the work to be done, assuming the review hasn't run out of time? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:34, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
@Carbrera: I left some notes with "not done" in this page, please address them, most of them are new. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:55, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- @MarioSoulTruthFan: Thanks! Carbrera (talk) 19:19, 2 September 2016 (UTC).
- @Carbrera: gladly passing. I would advise you to see the importance of this article in the Pop and R&B/Soul project. Doesn't seem to be "mid-importance". MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:23, 3 September 2016 (UTC)