Talk:Rashid Rida

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The link to islamic modernist is empty. Are there no islamic modernists? Make a stub for that please. - Pernambuco 06:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Rida was born near Tripoli in what is now Syria..." umm...i don't know where this person was born, but syria is not near tripoli unless by "near" we mean "about 1300 miles away." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.1.115 (talk) 02:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Claim of freemasonry

The article quotes an assertion that Rida was a freemason. A citation is needed for this; specifically, of which lodge was he a member?

The same problem and question applies to articles on Jamal-al-Din Afghani and Muhammad `Abduh.

yoyo (talk) 16:18, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing

The man was quite influential among Islamists. There are a lot more available sources out there which could really beef up the article. MezzoMezzo (talk) 09:33, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@User:CheckDigit1, why was a valid source removed during this edit?

Also, what's with this citation? I just checked Google Books and the info is correct, but the citatin absolutely isn't - even the author's name appear to be wrong. And where is the publisher info? Where is the ISBN number? All of this information is easily obtainable on Google Books and including it would only have taken another minute or so of your time. Check WP:CITEHOW for things which ought to be included. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:07, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The quote was removed because it did not provide evidence that Rida was close to the Baha'i faith (though it did indicate that Abduh was). If you read the source you will find plenty of quotes that Rida was actually quite strongly opposed to Bahaism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CheckDigit1 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you're referring to: Juan R.I. Cole. "Muhammad `Abduh and Rashid Rida: A Dialogue on the Baha'i Faith." World Order Vol. 15, nos. 3-4 (Spring/Summer 1981):7-16. Alright, perhaps it doesn't, but where did you find this source? It's a proper citation so I would like to check it out. Is it on Google Books? Do you have a PDF?

Also, what about this: Karim Wissa, “Freemasonry in Egypt 1798-1921″. The British Society for Middle Eastern Studies Bulletin, vol.16, no.2, 1989. It was sourcing the following statement: "Conversely, Rida also had a close relationship with Freemasonry." Again, the citation is proper; why did you remove the first source and accompanying information? MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:05, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Look, for the time being, I'm going to return the Wissa source per Wikipedia:Assume good faith for the time being. If we can find the time to inspect that one too then great, but right now I see no reason to remove both sources. MezzoMezzo (talk) 09:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just found the Cole source here, reprinted with full permission of the author. This is an incredible source, and I really can't understand why it would be removed - just edit the text. Look, biographies of Muslim notables are already lacking in general - any reliable sources we can bring are a great help, and if someone wrote text not verified by the source, we can just rewrite the text. Removing reliable sources that relate to the subject, however, isn't helpful - we need to build up articles, not tear them down. MezzoMezzo (talk) 10:07, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Salafi and Islamic modernism

These two movements seem to contrast, the one oriented toward the founders of Islam, the other to modernizing Islam, yet Rashid Rida is cited as following both. Can this be clarified? HGilbert (talk) 16:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to his views, he definitely wasn't a Salafi. The only reason why he is probably described as a Salafi in this Wikipedia article is people citing western writers who seem to not understand the difference.--Crazyketchupguy (talk) 14:20, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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