Talk:Rashid Nezhmetdinov

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Nezhmetidinov and Tal-Botvinnik match?

The article claimes RN acted as Tal's "trainer" during matches with Botvinnik. I do not remember seeing RN mentioned in the book Tal-Botvinnik 1960, which identifies his trainer as Koblenz or Koblents. An article by Tal in LEARN FROM THE GRANDMASTERS praises RN but does not mention any role as Tal's trainer or second. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.134.191 (talk) 06:04, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nezhmetdinov's law

Apparently there's a law attributed to Nezhmetdinov, that goes 'he who analyses blitz games is stupid' - my only reference for this is p.208-9 (game 75 - Fischer vs Milan Matulovic) of Andrew Soltis' Bobby Fischer Rediscovered: "At the risk of violating Nezhmetdinov's Law ..."

Does anyone have any corroboration for this, and is it important enough to put in the article? (I think it is, but what do I know - and if it goes in, it should be added to the eponymous laws page). No-genius (talk) 15:27, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nezhmetdinov's participation in international tournaments

The subsection "International Master Title" states that Nezhmetdinov participated in only one chess tournament outside of the USSR; namely, the 1954 Bucharest International. However, that is contradicted by:

Rashid Nezhmetdinov with Dale A. Brandreth, Jack O'Keefe, and Richard Cantwell (ed.s), Nezhmetdinov's Best Games of Chess (Yorklyn, Delaware, USA: Caissa Books, 2000), page i: "In part his lack of fame outside of the former Soviet bloc is due to his having never played in the West and having played in only a few international tourneys, [and] with the exception of Bucharest 1954 rather minor ones." Available on-line at Scribd.com.

Also, in addition to his participation in the 1954 Bucharest International, his record of games on ChessGames.com lists two games that were played outside of the USSR: 1961 in Sofia, Bulgaria against N. Padevsky, and 1967 in Varna, Bulgaria against V. Ciocaltea.

Cwkmail (talk) 05:22, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading

This article suggests that Nezhmetdinov's inability to beat a defensive mastermind like Averbakh prevented him from becoming a GM. This is probably untrue. While it was certainly a weakness in his game, had Nezhmetdinov participated in more international tournaments, he probably would have been able to make his norms. He certainly did well enough against Soviet GMs, not all of whom were Averbakh. I admit there is no way to know, but it is as much or more speculation to say that his game was inadequate as it is to say that he certainly would have become a GM if he competed in more international tournaments. It is better to just say he did not compete in enough tournaments to earn a GM status. 2604:2000:1304:6FB3:F935:D2E9:5E3E:5088 (talk) 21:48, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Portrate of Nezhmetdinov

There really should be his portrait on the page. The Russian version of the page has a nice image, but after looking at the licence, it's unclear if it's allowed to be reupload to English version, there are of course many versions online, but non are clear on the licencing. Otterfield (talk) 00:55, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Results

This section contains two mutually contradictory statements. It says he had a plus score in 20 games against World Champions but had a -9, =0 score against Petrosian. Even if he won each of the other 9 games against other World Champions - a highly improbable achievement - he'd have an overall even score, not a plus one. Does anyone have the correct figures?Jjc2002 (talk) 09:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)Jjc2002[reply]

The article says he has a score of +0-9=2 against Petrosian and Korchnoi, which by itself doesn't prevent a plus score against World Champions, as Korchnoi never was a World Champion. But, it gets weirder. If you follow the references given (to chessgames.com), then the score against Petrosian is +0-3=2, and against Korchnoi +0-3=3. The combined result is +0-6=5. I'll fix the score to be inline with the reference. 62.216.5.216 (talk) 15:47, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Using chessgames.com, I could only find 17 games against players who were once world champion, and it gives him a minus score: Botvinnik +0-0=1, Smyslov +0-1=0, Tal +3-1=0, Petrosian +0-3=2 and Spassky +2-3=1. The combined score gives +5-8=4. Tal is the only world champion against whom he has a plus score. 62.216.5.216 (talk) 15:47, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]