Talk:Rape during the Darfur genocide/Archive 1

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Janjaweed (evil men on horseback)

• The Superpower Myth: The Use and Misuse of American Might "The government recruited and armed over twenty thousand Muslim militiamen, called Janjaweed, or "evil men on horseback," p=294
• War and Faith in Sudan "the aptly self-described janjaweed ("evil men on horseback")" p=182
• Genocide since 1945 "the largely Arab Janjaweed ('evil men on horseback')."
• The Global War on Your Guns: Inside the UN Plan To Destroy the Bill of Rights "the Janjaweed (literally,“evil men on horseback” or “devil on a horse”)" p=144
• Genocide "the Janjaweed as well.The name of this militia group translates as"evil men on horseback”." p=51 Darkness Shines (talk) 01:19, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

"The Global War on Your Guns: Inside the UN Plan To Destroy the Bill of Rights" sounds like an interesting read (irony). That said, here are some other sources (perhaps less tendencious that some of the ones above):

• • http://www.answers.com/topic/janjaweed "“Janjaweed” means “hordes” in colloquial Arabic; there is no evidence for an etymological connection to “jinn” (devil), “jim” (“G” as in G3 rifle), or “jawad” (horse)."
  • http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1003597/Janjaweed "The militia’s name is thought by many to be derived from the Arabic jinnī (spirit) and jawad (horse), although its etymological origins are not completely clear."
  • http://subweb.diis.dk/graphics/CVer/Personlige_CVer/Holocaust_and_Genocide/DisplacingDarfur.pdf "The origins of the name janjaweed are to be found in the colloquial Arabic of Darfur where the word “jann” means evil spirit and the name “jawad” meaning horse. Other Sudanese have given me the explanation that the word is a fusion of “GM 3”, a machinegun and “jawad”, meaning horse."
  • http://www.pbs.org/newshour/indepth_coverage/africa/darfur/militia.html "The name Janjaweed is a combination of Arabic words meaning outlaws, gun and horse"

In brief, there are different claims as to the origin of the name. In any case, it is not fuzha Arabic. And in case the original name includes the component Jinn, this is by no means a direct translation of "evil" or "devil". --Soman (talk) 01:46, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

answers.com? Is that RS? Just cos the guy who wrote the article for Britannic does not mention the translation, does not mean we should not. Your third source actually backs the idea of "evil men on horseback" And who here is talking about the origin of the name? This is a literal translation as backed by RS. Darkness Shines (talk) 01:55, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I missed PBS, but here they are again Janjaweed of course means evil men on horseback Darkness Shines (talk) 02:00, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

If it's a literal translation, then from what language? (Because it ain't Arabic for sure) --Soman (talk) 02:04, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Dunno, but I have two solid sources which says it is a rough translation, if I add that will you be satisfied? Darkness Shines (talk) 02:10, 2 January 2014 (UTC)