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Article needs significant improvement

This article is poorly written, poorly sourced, and scarcely meets any of Wiki's standards. It will require vast improvements lest it be flagged for deletion. Several of the claims were obviously written from a biased, uninformed point of view with questionable/broken references. I have removed the offending information, and added citation tags where appropriate. Any future edits need to be written impartially, be all-encompassing with regards to the subject matter, and must be properly sourced. Zargabaath 18:37, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Term

Per WP:NEO, "To support an article about a particular term or concept, we must cite what reliable secondary sources, such as books and papers, say about the term or concept, not books and papers that use the term." "Racebending" is a distinct term that is not fully synonymous with "whitewashing", but when used pejoratively, it can be synonymous. The general meaning is to change the race, and the term's origin is explained as well as the specific activism behind it, which is not at the article about whitewashing in film. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 02:34, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Remakes

Does this cover remakes such as The Magnificent Seven after The Seven Samurai or Ran after King Lear? The adaptations of Romeo and Juliet or Carmen to different scenarios? --Error (talk) 19:50, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. It would be as if The Seven Samurai were remade as seven samurai in Shōgun-era Japan, but played by white actors, because the film execs didn't have faith in Asian actors appearing in a film about an historical Asian culture.

Nuttyskin (talk) 02:57, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this entire article

This is a made up buzz word and everything written here about it is obvious conjecture. Articles like this undermine Wikipedia's credibility. Allwordnoplay (talk) 04:29, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed this is at best a footnote as an alternative term for Whitewashing, with all the most notable examples being simple examples of whitewashing. This is fan term for a specific franchise that should not be a full article. Impalallama (talk) 23:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, this should be under a separate name or associated with whitewashing as a related topic. Rumi089746432 (talk) 04:23, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hamilton?

Where would the Broadway production of "Hamilton" that rewrites the Caucasian ("white") founding fathers as having been Latino and African-American, and then casts these historically Caucasian ("white") people as Latino and African-American people, fit into to the broader issue of "washing" and "Genderbending?" Opinions please? 2603:800C:3944:BC00:A503:11C4:3496:9F2C (talk) 08:49, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Racebending is not the same as whitewashing

Ok, don’t get me wrong. Of course, whitewashing is a form of racebending, but the article illustrates a completely wrong impression. In recent times, speficially since 2015, racebending has occurred a lot. But, matter of fact, a lot of times in the direction, white/European character —> cast as a black character. And this does not only include fictional, but also historical (!) characters. examples: - Bridgerton, Netflix: the Duke and the queen as the most prominent examples are described in the book as ethnic brits (white people) living in pre industrial England, they were cast as black characters - Queen Charlotte, Netflix: the same thing - Thor, marvel: the Norwegian (white) mythical figures of Heimdall and Valkyrie were cast as black characters - Percy series, Netflix: Annabeth, described as blonde with white skin and grey eyes, was cast as a black character - Arielle, Disney live action: Arielle, an ethnic danish (white character) was cast as a black - Tinkerbelle, Disney: the same - Hamlet - to all the boys I’ve loved before… - vikings Valhalla, Netflix: Jarl hakoon, ethnical Swedish(white) Viking: cast as a black woman - bbc documentary about troy: Achilles cast as a black man

and those are only a few examples. The article should definitely include these examples and should specify, that racebending, as a matter of fact, happened a lot of times in the recent years as white character -> cast as a black actor. Cell.83 (talk) 10:20, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Racebending is about whatever the reliable sources say racebending is about, so let's stick to sourced examples that talk about racebending. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:55, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is your exact point here? Cell.83 (talk) 11:53, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve seen a lot of unedits on this page without good reasons. For example, an actor Jodie Turner-Smith being included as an example but the addition rejected because she didn’t have a Wikipedia page although the example was otherwise properly cited. A simple search and the cite would show this is a real actor. @FirefangledfeathersI would ask you to be more discerning in your edits. Edits that are factual and properly cited should be maintained. Rumi089746432 (talk) 04:21, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rumi089746432. You may have me mixed up with someone else. I haven't made any edits removing Jodie Turner-Smith, and I don't think I've removed any properly cited examples. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:26, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The whole issue of racebending is that it is erasing the performances of actors who are of nonwhite ethnicities, in favour of white casting, because white actors are already over-represented in films of Western origin. Characters in Greek myth, or comic superheroes, or (arguably) classic drama, have no essential ethnicities to be racebent: they can be cast as any ethnicity, because they are already universal.

Nuttyskin (talk) 03:18, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Little Mermaid 2023

Should The Little Mermaid (2023 film) be included as an example of racebending on here? 2601:206:301:4A90:C673:5C08:2782:6018 (talk) 00:21, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]