Talk:Queen Beatrice

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Requested move 04 December 2013

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Queen Beatrice (disambiguation). There was no consensus for a change of primary topic, so Queen Beatrice still redirects to Beatrix of the Netherlands. However, the changing of this disambig article to "Queen Beatrice (disambiguation)]" rather than "Queen Beatrix (disambiguation)" garnered at least two supports, and is more natural since, as it is pointed out, Beatrix is not ambiguous. (non-admin closure) — Amakuru (talk) 12:58, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Beatrix (disambiguation) → Queen Beatrice – Queen Beatrix is the only queen with the name "Beatrix". This page lists queens who are named "Beatrice". If necessary, a hatnote can be placed at Beatrix of the Netherlands pointing to Queen Beatrice. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 09:02, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose, as no argument has been put forth that Beatrix of the Netherlands is not the primary topic of Queen Beatrice; I would support, however, moving Queen Beatrix (disambiguation) to Queen Beatrice (disambiguation). bd2412 T 14:14, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment How was Beatrix the primary topic of Queen Beatrice in the first place? Perhaps it is a common misspelling in English. Anyways, it makes no sense to have this page say Queen Beatrix (disambiguation) since there are no other Queen Beatrixes. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 15:02, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Beatrice of the Netherlands is definitely not the only queen known as Beatrix. Virtually every queen known as Beatrice is sometimes (if not often) called Beatrix. Surtsicna (talk) 15:21, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. ^walk victor falk^talk 15:53, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Really, I've never called any queen called Beatrice as Beatrix. I've looked at the list and it only says in the first article that that queen is also known as Beatrix. Anyways, it would still be more appropriate to have this article at Queen Beatrice (disambiguation) instead of Beatrix. Mostly because all the articles listed on the page use the name Beatrice. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 09:32, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The question is not whether other people are "known as" Queen Beatrice, but what is the primary topic of the name. All of the other subjects who were named Beatrix or Beatrice and were queens are comparatively footnotes in history. Beatrix of the Netherlands is the only one who was a Queen Regnant (an actual reigning monarch), and she was so for a relatively long period of time, during which she exercised power in a formal role in the government of her country. bd2412 T 17:16, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.