Talk:Qasem Khel
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[edit]There are a number of references I removed from the article because there is no evidence that they are about this Qasem Khel, and not about e.g. the one in Parwhan province (transliterated Qasim Khel)[1], or the one that supposedly exists in Ghazni province, according to User:The Anome/Villages in Gelan District, Ghazni Province, Afghanistan. (The one in Parwhan is the only one where we can actually be quite sure that it exists with this name).
The first removed source[2] only talks about a "Qasim Khel" in the east of the country, which could just as well apply to the one in Parwhan province.
The second source[3] is not about a village, but about the Qasim Khel Thrust, a geological feature, which according to the description seems to lay in Pakistan, not in Afghanistan. In fact, there seems to be evidence that there is a village or location Qasim Khel in Pakistan as well, e.g. [4][5]
The final source[6] seems to be about the Qasim Khel in Ghazni province, not the one in Logar province (or alternatively there is no Qasim Khel in Logar province, and this one should be located in Ghazni province).
So I don't think it would be correct to include these three sources here. The second one specifically, about the Thrust, seems to be about something in Pakistan, not in Afghanistan. Fram (talk) 09:48, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Clearly the geological feature underlies the village in Logar. See the circled "28" on the map in Permian stratigraphy... on page 3, the index under that map, and the discussion on the previous page, with its contiguous mention of the nearby placenames in the sentence beginning "Fossiliferous Permian sequences also were described at..." This is quite obviously the same place and the ref should be restored.
- The central list shows the Qasim Khel in Jabalusar, proximate to Khoisaran and Tatum Dara. I see no indication other than that of its location, but I agree it seems to be a different place.
- I don't have the AAPGB ref at hand, but barring evidence to say that it refers to a different place, I wp:AGF on the part of the editor who added it. Is there some unstated reason you think it refers to a place in Ghazni rather than Logar? LeadSongDog come howl! 13:41, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- The AAPGB states; "[...] southeast of Kabul (Ali Khel-Qasim Khel)" This is the only mention of Qasim Khel. Considering that there is supposed to be an Ali Khel in Ghazni, and a Qasim Khel in Ghazni as well, while I haven't seen evidence of an Ali Khel close to the Logar Qasim Khel, I assumed that we have no eivdence that this is the same Qasim Khel. I havdn't seen that the map in the first source contains Quasim Khel (sic) at the approximate location of this article's subject though. Fram (talk) 14:37, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- There's an Ali Khel listed here on p.6 (near Qila Barkhel in Kabul province's Bagrami district). Google Maps shows "Ali Kheyl" at 33°56′14″N 69°41′58″E / 33.93713°N 69.69937°E about 50km SE of Kabul city on the road from Stare Meshray to the Pakistan border crossing near Sursurang. Whether this constitutes part of Logar or of Paktia province's Jaji district needs further evidence. This might just be an issue of district boundaries having been redefined over time.LeadSongDog come howl! 17:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- If you feel that there is enough reason to believe that the third source is about this Qasim Khel, I have no objection to you readding them. I wont do it myself, I'm not certain enough that it is correct (or very relevant for the article about the village, this is more a source about the geology of the region), but I'll not remove it again. Fram (talk) 06:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. There's no need to rush, something else will likely emerge to clarify it. LeadSongDog come howl! 12:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- If you feel that there is enough reason to believe that the third source is about this Qasim Khel, I have no objection to you readding them. I wont do it myself, I'm not certain enough that it is correct (or very relevant for the article about the village, this is more a source about the geology of the region), but I'll not remove it again. Fram (talk) 06:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- There's an Ali Khel listed here on p.6 (near Qila Barkhel in Kabul province's Bagrami district). Google Maps shows "Ali Kheyl" at 33°56′14″N 69°41′58″E / 33.93713°N 69.69937°E about 50km SE of Kabul city on the road from Stare Meshray to the Pakistan border crossing near Sursurang. Whether this constitutes part of Logar or of Paktia province's Jaji district needs further evidence. This might just be an issue of district boundaries having been redefined over time.LeadSongDog come howl! 17:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- The AAPGB states; "[...] southeast of Kabul (Ali Khel-Qasim Khel)" This is the only mention of Qasim Khel. Considering that there is supposed to be an Ali Khel in Ghazni, and a Qasim Khel in Ghazni as well, while I haven't seen evidence of an Ali Khel close to the Logar Qasim Khel, I assumed that we have no eivdence that this is the same Qasim Khel. I havdn't seen that the map in the first source contains Quasim Khel (sic) at the approximate location of this article's subject though. Fram (talk) 14:37, 3 May 2011 (UTC)