Talk:Pulteney Bridge/Archive 1

Archive 1

William and Robert Adam

Paragraph 3 refers to the brothers William and Robert Adam, but William Adam was Robert Adam's father, and died in 1848. Did he have a second son also called William, who was also an architect / builder? If so, please change the link I created to William Adam (architect) to something else.-gadfium (talk) 23:44, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Robert did have a brother William, but he wasn't an architect. I have changed it to James, as Robert and James were partners at this time. Edward Waverley 12:08, 27 Aug 2007 (UTC)

Design

Is there any chance this was designed by the same person who built, or is based on the idea of, the original London Bridge? Simply south 00:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

One of Four Bridges in the World?

If the Pulteney Bridge is in a set of four bridges in the world with shops along both sides of their span, and the set includes Ponte Vecchio in Florence and the Rialto Bridge in Venice, both in Italy, then where is or was number four? Not the OldLondon Bridge, which was long gone when Pulteney was built. --Suzikay (talk) 00:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

There are at least five long bridges lined with shops. The Krämerbrücke, Erfurt, Germany is one and the rather obviously titled, but now rather shortened, Pont des Marchands in Narbonne, France another. For short single arches as part of a continuous street, they're innumerable. I think there may also be some old Chinese bridges within this group. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:10, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

• If we were ever to start a list article on these (which would be a nice idea), then High Bridge, Lincoln, [1] ought to get a look in too. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:24, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Call for additional pictures + description of waterfalls

I think that this article could benefit from a picture of the bridge taken down the center. If someone lives near it and can take such a photo, it could be added to improve the article. Lexandalf (talk) 03:47, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Can you clarify what you mean by "down the centre"? Do you mean of the road & shops as seen by someone crossing the bridge? If so I have some somewhere, but we could end up overloading the article with pictures dominating the text.— Rod ^talk 08:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I'd also like to see a wider picture of the waterfalls and an explanation of how they were developed. ~ JasonCarswell (talk) 10:17, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

You mean Pulteney Weir - see the discussion below. I would not object to a new article being created about the weir. If this article were expanded to include more reference to the weir, its title would perhaps need to be changed to Pulteney Bridge and Weir - which I don't think would be desirable. There is some more about the weir here and here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:22, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Pulteney Weir

Kennet and Avon Canal, now on the main page, has a piped link to this article under the name of Pulteney Weir. This article on the bridge only mentions the weir in passing. The weir was used for the scene of Javert's suicide in the film version of Les Misérables. See production notes, p. 40. Kablammo (talk) 16:28, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I've added this but couldn't find it in the production notes so have used a local paper report as a citation.— Rod ^talk 21:26, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

The production notes do not use the name, but state:

One shot was added for Javert's final suicidal jump into the Seine, which was shot at the spectacular weir on the River Avon in the center of the Georgian City of Bath.

Production notes, page 40 (at the end of the page). I doubted there are any other weirs on the Avon at Bath, and your local source confirms the identification.

You may wish to consider either creating a separate article on the weir, or else creating Pulteney Weir as a redirect to this article. As I don't have the knowledge to know if the weir is important enough to merit a separate article, I leave that to you.

Best wishes, Kablammo (talk) 16:14, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the additional specifics - I've added the ref & made the redirect - I don't think the weir is notable enough on its own.— Rod ^talk 16:35, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Architecture and anything else before GA nomination

I have been expanding this article and responding to the comments made during the peer review, however I'm having problems finding suitable material for the architecture section. Could anyone help? Also is there anything else which other editors feel needs doing before this article would be suitable for GA nomination?— Rod ^talk 14:20, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Opening sentence

The opening sentence should describe what the bridge is. That is, what it is now. Bathwick is an area of Bath that contains Georgian streets - no doubt, at the time it was described as a "new town", or a newly-built town, as is explained in the text. But it is not a new town now, and, unlike, say, Edinburgh New Town, it is not described as a new town now. It is misleading to readers to describe it plainly as a "new town" when it is obviously not a new town now - it is simply one area of Bath. Those words should not be in the opening sentence - the relationship between the bridge and Bathwick in the 18th century is described in the text. I'd be happy with a wording something like ".... with the Georgian "new town" of Bathwick..." if the consensus is that some wording other than simply "Bathwick" should be included.Ghmyrtle (talk) 06:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

How about "... the newly built Georgian town of Bathwick"? Malleus Fatuorum 14:34, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that the first part of the sentence doesn't say how old it is - readers don't know that until they get to the next sentence. Describing it as a "new town" might give the casual reader the impression that it's somewhere like Poundbury, or Skelmersdale. Describing it as a "newly built Georgian town" is better, but the sentence still doesn't explain when it was "new". How about:

"Pulteney Bridge crosses the River Avon in Bath, England. It was completed by 1774, and connected the city with the newly built Georgian town of Bathwick. Designed by Robert Adam in a Palladian style, it is one of only four bridges in the world with shops across the full span on both sides. It has been designated as a Grade I listed building...."

Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Seems fine to me, do it. Malleus Fatuorum 16:09, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

The change looks fine to me as well.— Rod ^talk 16:30, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Done. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)