Talk:Progression of the most expensive transfer in Serie A

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how to evaluate the reliability of numbers and the record

The reported cost is verified by a reliable news, contemporaneous to the transfer, which proves the new record. Subsequent sources of years or decades are not taken into account, because they tend to increase the numbers or contain inaccuracies. This is my experience. --QuQuqquu99 (talk) 09:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

improvements and evaluations

In some newspaper articles, or on the web, I found some transfers mentioned as new records; these statements were not correct.

Records proved to be false

in 1945 : aldo ballarin 1.5 million lire to Torino - FALSE; gino cappello milan -> juve 1.2 million FALSE; ferruccio valcareggi -> just one million

Schiaffino, 1954, from Penarol to Milan 2 270 000 pesos (56 250 000 lire)

Sormani, may 1963, from Mantova to Roma

Nielsen, 1967, from Bologna to Inter

Anastasi, 1968, from Varese to Juventus

Tardelli, 1975

Paolo Rossi

Falcao, 1980, from Internacional to Roma less than 2 miliardi

Cerezo, 1983 to Roma

Rummenigge, 1984 to Inter 6 miliardi

Gullit, 1987 to Milan 11 miliardi

Papin 1992 14 miliardi

Possible records, awaiting a contemporary and reliable source

Carlo Reguzzoni, 1930, from Pro Patria to Bologna, 80 000 lire ?

Johannes Pløger, 1 jan 1949, to Juventus, 40 milioni? (original cost - danish corona)?

Suarez, 1961, From Barcellona to Inter: not clear cost

Vialli 1992, from Sampdoria to Juventus: not clear cost

--QuQuqquu99 (talk) 09:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aldo Ballarin, 1945, from Triestina to Torino

not 1 500 000 lire, just 500-600 thousand lire — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.162.181.228 (talk • contribs) 2018-07-30T22:21:12 (UTC)

Possible original research

Copy from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Help english improvements:

listing some expensive signing by a Serie A club is ok, but listing the succession without citation is an original research, who knows did you missed one or two entries in the succession or not? You may dig out some article in http://archiviostorico.gazzetta.it/sitesearch/ArchivioStoricoPay.html as citation. For the last decade transfer, as the transfer fee were well reported it seem fine to have the succession of the record holder without citation. Matthew_hk t c 14:21, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Where possible, the fees need to also have a conversion to euro and/or pounds. Also should be listed in millions to avoid all the zeros. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 14:28, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Matthew. Did you read the 27 sources/notes in References section? It is not enough? How can I prove to you that this is not original research? I do not understand your doubts --94.165.79.21 (talk) 16:50, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vaseline, I'll explain you my opinion.
One thing must not be done because it is done elsewhere, but if it makes sense.
The transfers can also be expressed in millions but when there are transfers of the 1930s, what do we do? For example, a transfer of 50 thousand lire. If you want, we can write 80 million instead of 80,000,000 or 50 thousand instead of 50,000. Is that ok?
How can we express in pounds a 1950 transfer cost if we do not know exactly the exchange rate at the time? If you check carefully, transfer costs are expressed in other currencies (pesos, dollars) when known and necessary.
I hope you do not intend to convert old prices with current exchange rates in pounds or euros. It makes no sense! The euro coin was born in 2002. --94.165.79.21 (talk) 16:50, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that, that's why I said where possible. So for the fees probably between Giuseppe Savoldi and now, you can also find it reported in pounds. And probably from Vieri, as I see it listed on his page, in euros. And yes, write million or billion. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 17:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm searching on Italian newspapers, so actually I didn't found any sources with equivalent pounds. I've found source with other currencies when the selling club is from another country or continent, as you can see. I hope this step is ok. --94.165.79.21 (talk) 18:05, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

page name

Hi Vaseline, you moved page Serie A most expensive transfer progression to List of most expensive transfers in Serie A. They are two different things. If we have to list the most expensive transfers (top 50 for example), we could never list the record transfers of the 70s or earlier. And we would always and only have recent transfers, for inflation. I do not understand why you turn the page. Have respect to understand and read what other users have prepared. --94.165.79.21 (talk) 18:42, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adjusted. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 18:46, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

English is not my first language, however, I think you should move the current page name to Progression of most expensive transfer in Serie A. --QuQuqquu99 (talk) 19:43, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adjusted. Progression of the most expensive transfer in Serie A. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 19:46, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think now it's perfect. --QuQuqquu99 (talk) 20:39, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]