Talk:Principal Officials Accountability System
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Merger proposal
[edit]I believe this article should be 'merged' with Political Appointments System, because the scope and implications are largely similar. I say this notwithstanding the month-long row over the political appointees in May/June 2008. I keep finding great common threads and at times find it difficult to draw the line of demarcation between the two. However, I do not intend to go ahead with a merge at this stage. This article is a mish-mash of unsourced commentary and possible original research. I will attempt to source this article as best I can before I merge them together. Ohconfucius (talk) 02:21, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know. This is not the same chief exec. Unless there are sources to show the two cases are identical.... overpriced salaries + foreign passports, this is probably not related enough. Benjwong (talk) 04:03, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- The 'Responsibility system' and Political appointments system are related, because Tung believed that political appointees were necessary, so in making Principal Officials 'political appontees' was a main plank of that policy. He made Exco an organ of Government, and shut the revolving door on civil servants who became ministers - that act, as well as appointing outsiders into the 'cabinet' was the beginning of the Political appointments system. That's where I see the linkage. Tsang isn't doing anything different to Tung, he's just still driving further down the same road - see here. All the ministerial appointments are the important thing. The Responsibility system was just spin, and everybody knew from the start it had absolutely no substance but preparing the ground for increasing the number of political 'friends' he could put on the government payroll. Yes, and he needed plenty of them. Ohconfucius (talk) 05:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- My understanding is that Tung Chee-hwa's case was different. He wanted apointees to carry out crazy things like article23. Tsang just needs a few friends in the office, preferably pro-Beijing loyalists with no foreign citizenships. To merge the articles implies they are identical. Benjwong (talk) 07:01, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- The 'Responsibility system' and Political appointments system are related, because Tung believed that political appointees were necessary, so in making Principal Officials 'political appontees' was a main plank of that policy. He made Exco an organ of Government, and shut the revolving door on civil servants who became ministers - that act, as well as appointing outsiders into the 'cabinet' was the beginning of the Political appointments system. That's where I see the linkage. Tsang isn't doing anything different to Tung, he's just still driving further down the same road - see here. All the ministerial appointments are the important thing. The Responsibility system was just spin, and everybody knew from the start it had absolutely no substance but preparing the ground for increasing the number of political 'friends' he could put on the government payroll. Yes, and he needed plenty of them. Ohconfucius (talk) 05:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
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