Talk:Poto and Cabengo

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Translation of speech sample

Would someone care to translate the speech sample? I tried a number of searches but all I got back were dozens of references to this very page. Damn and blast!

--Irongaard 14:22, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I resemble that comment. Seriously, if it is not translated, what is the point? 71.156.42.198 (talk) 06:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you want something fixed...71.156.42.198 (talk) 06:41, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glossary Needed

Can't anybody describe the language more precisely? Which parts of the language were more closely related to German than English? The devoicing of dental stops at the ends of syllables?

What kinds of word classes are there in their language? Do nouns or verbs inflect, or do they need position-dependent auxiliaries to flesh out their meaning?

Another way to improve the article would be to add a glossary.

Birth

This seems to be missing a key piece of information. "Their birth was normal, and they were able to lift their heads and make eye contact with their parents within hours after birth. Doctors at the time referred to this behavior as related to a seizure disorder and speculated that both girls would become mentally retarded as a result."

What behavior was termed a "seizure disorder"? The sentence that precedes it doesn't indicate anything abnormal.75.139.35.32 10:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict

Why, when the Learning Channel source cited states "Children's Hospital doctors were told that the girls had suffered seizures after birth — this may have caused previously unknown brain damage. But their isolation during a critical period for language development could alone explain their speech problems. Though therapy eventually cured Virginia and Grace of their secret language, they are still developmentally disabled. Now approaching 30, the twins continue to experience speech problems and mental delays. Grace, who has achieved a higher level of functioning than her sister, works at a McDonald's cleaning tables and mopping. Virginia works at a job-training center and performs assembly-line work", which very strongly implies there was actual developmental disability (mentioning seizures and possible brain damage, and the difference between the two, one "higher level" than the other), does the article emphasise them as adults to still be "affected by their family's emotional neglect"? This almost seems like the pushing of a particular viewpoint/ narrative, what with the emphasis on the oppressive father/ half-neglectful grandmother. So were they in any way developmentally disabled, or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.217.17 (talk) 04:10, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know specifically about these women, but neglect has been shown to cause behavioral disorders and milestone delays. Remember the coverage of all the babies in Eastern European orphanages that were subjected to neglect and the difficulties adoptive US parent had with them? This is pure speculation, but it seems like these sisters may have been subjected to the same degree of neglect.

By the way, lifting one's head and staring at one's parents is not what fresh new babies can do. That doesn't start happening until about the 2nd month where neuro-musclar development allows infants to begin to lift their heads when they are placed on their tummy, regard their parents, and begin to start babbling.

Lifting their heads as fresh newborns is just not possible. Speculation again: unless perhaps they were seizing or posturing (very serious) and the movements were mistaken for them meeting their milestones very early.

Does anyone know if these women are still living and how they are doing? Their lives sound very hard.

Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 20:57, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

analysis

"Pinit, putahtraletungay." (Finish, potato salad hungry.) "Nis, Poto?" (This, Poto?) "Liba Cabingoat, it." (Dear Cabengo, eat.) "Ia moa, Poto?" (Here more, Poto?) "Ya." (Yeah.)

it's a mixture of Albanian, Indonesian, english, Maori, Hungarian, Hawaiian and the Latin.

Some people think it is the language of the devils. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.127.207.162 (talk) 09:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2A01:E34:ECA1:1280:1418:12EC:5250:64A (talk) 18:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]