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WikiProject Ancient Egypt to-do list:

Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

Cleanup.

To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. Any other candidates?

Standardize the Chronology.

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Stub sorting

Anyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done . . .

Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

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Gender disagreement

Potipherah is referred to as "she" in the part in which she is said to be the mother of Asenath (the text says that Asenath was the daughter of Potipherah, no gender implied either way). Then Potipherah is referred to as "he" when the meaning of the name is explained. Potiphar, who owned Joseph as a slave, was male. So which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.152.205 (talk) 15:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC) The Bible says "priest", not "priestess", so it is a man. 74.241.226.147 (talk) 14:26, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Possible identification as Pentawer

I think many of the names in the Abraham->Joseph->Moses appear as 20th dynasty royals from Egypt. Potipherah is probably derived from Petawer/Pentaweret Pentawer; w and f are sometimes interchangeable in egyptian.

"As Joyce Tyldesley explains in Chronicle of the Queens of Egypt, “The name Pentawaret translates as ‘The [male] One of the [female] Great One’, the female Great One presumably being his mother, Tiy. This was almost certainly not the prince’s real name. Records of criminal trials tended to replace ‘good’ Egyptian names—names incorporating the name of a god, for example—with more appropriate descriptive ‘bad’ names, and this is likely to be the New Kingdom Equivalent of the Old Kingdom Queen ‘Great of Sceptre’ whom we met in the Pepi I harem case” (Tyldesley, 168)." 170.55.96.50 (talk) 20:30, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]