Talk:Porteño

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Biotype?

Give me a break elpincha (talk) 15:13, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For clarity:

Probably, the ethnic composition of the porteño, European with a strong influence of Italian and Jewish, created a biotype particular to inside Argentina, containing characteristics specific to the area of the Rio de la Plata and the general culture of the country.

Hyacinth (talk) 00:40, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is not an ethnicity

When the article refers to people who identify as porteños it's getting it wrong, porteño is the oficial demonym for people born in the city of Buenos Aires and ca be also used for thing referring to any port in general. But uruguayans dont identify as porteños. Also the porteños can't have been the ones to raise horses in the pampas as they are miles away for the actual city of Buenos Aires. Porteños don't really have equestrian sports as a mayor thing in their lives, in fact only the elite play those sports as good horses to play with can be expensive. Porteños are diferente in the way they live fast, because the city really goes a 1000 miles per hour and everything can happen, they are the epicentre of the political power, the financial power and the great media conglomerates of the nation, they are used to have many things that just don't reach the insides of the country, like next day shipping or freelance app jobs and they often have prejudice over the people from the other provinces (known as interior). They have a really different culture, so for the people in the interior the Porteños seem really out of touch with the reality of the country. 181.229.96.90 (talk) 03:05, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know which is the truth—I'd understand "porteño" to be the demonym for the city of Buenos Aires, in contrast to the bonairsenses of Buenos Aires province, though I'd only learned that from a travel guide—but, definitely, everything after the lead in this article directly contradicts the lead. It's as though this lead were the summation of an entirely different article. Largoplazo (talk) 10:31, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, through the years porteño has acquired a more negative connotation. Nowadays its mostly associated with the stereotypical city dweller: entitled, egotistical, etc. But during the colonial era, it used to be a catch all term for everything Argentinian. There’s a reason as to why we use the latter instead of the former as the de facto demonym, and his name is Roca. During the 1880s, the liberals, led by Julio Argentino Roca, started a concealed effort to “pacify” the country; after decades of political turmoil. The city of Buenos Aires was separated from the province of Buenos Aires, permanently altering the balance of power within the country. The province of Buenos Aires, ruled by an elected governor, now mostly held farmlands. Meanwhile the new federal city of Buenos Aires had a monopoly on international trade; but most importantly its mayor was an unelected official personally appointed by the president. This is where the bonaerense-porteño split began.

But that was far from the only measure taken to empower the executive branch. New secular institutions were founded in order to strip the church out of some of its power. Among them were the public schools, which standardized the use of the Argentinian demonym. Porteño became almost a colloquialism, hardly used by governmental institutions but kept alive by tradition.

Its use as an official demonym is relatively recent. After 1994’s constitutional reform, the mayor of Buenos Aires title became an elected position, effectively defining what porteño meant: the constituents of the city of Buenos Aires. It’s obviously a bit more nuanced than that, a man from rural Santa Cruz will certainly call anyone from the Bs As metro area porteño, but that’s basically it.

Also, someone crammed every other city whose demonym is porteño into the article, which clearly wasn’t the intention of the OP . 2800:810:442:8500:F902:8521:354C:5421 (talk) 21:42, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]