Talk:Pontcanna

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Language style is inappropriate for Wikipedia, should be from a neutral perspective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.251.133.26 (talk) 14:46, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Surprised to see there is so little love for Pontcanna relative to its neighbours Canton and Riverside! However, I agree with the above comment about the style of language. There is also repetition in the last two paragraphs, as well as questionable statements. Hope nobody minds if I make a start at pointing the article in the right direction (I've judiciously copied a couple of salient paras from the Riverside article). Sionk (talk) 13:12, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"The suburb has become increasingly affluent from the early 1990s onwards." - this statement is questionable, I'm not sure what it refers to. Hasn't Pontcanna always been wealthy? Sionk (talk) 01:37, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is Pontcanna a Community?

I have undone part of User:Troellwr's recent edit that said that Pontcanna was a Community (Wales), in the formal sense. I did this because the Ordnance Survey Election Maps website shows Pontcanna as part of the Riverside community, whose southern boundary is just south of Ninian Park Road and Tudor Street. This agrees with List of communities in Wales. However, I now find that Cardiff Council's iShare mapping site shows separate communities of Pontcanna and Riverside, with the boundary just north of Cowbridge Road East. (Both websites require you to navigate to the required area which makes citations awkward.)

Should we rely on the Ordnance Survey or Cardiff Council? Perhaps Cardiff Council are showing wards instead of communities, Wards and electoral divisions of the United Kingdom#Wales says "Communities in Wales (the equivalent to the civil parish in England) are sometimes divided into wards for elections to the community council." However, neither Riverside nor Pontcanna has a community council, see here. How should we handle this? Verbcatcher (talk) 22:27, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well that's interesting! I agree, I always use Ordnance Survey as the definitive proof. But this 2015 news article confirms that a new Pontcanna community was to be created. It appears that Ordnance Survey aren't completely up-to-date in this instance. Llanedeyrn, Tremorfa and Thornhill communities were also proposed. The news article says there was to be a 6-week consultation period, but presumably the boundaries on the Cardiff Council map are sufficient to confirm the proposals were carried out. Sionk (talk) 09:03, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Local Democracy and Boundary Commission for Wales defines the community borders, which are implemented by the Welsh Government. Their report on Cardiff Council's 2015 proposals is here. After some hunting I found The City and County of Cardiff (Communities) Order 2016, which creates of the new community of Pontcanna and came into effect on 1 December 2016. Verbcatcher (talk) 16:32, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the discussions and for restoring my initial edit. The reference I'd included to Cardiff Council's iShare mapping site does show that Pontcanna is a community, although it would be better if there was a direct link to a map with the boundaries shown. It's common in towns and cities for communities not to have their own councils. Troellwr (talk) 19:16, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]