Talk:Polly (The Kinks song)

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Date	Process	Result
September 30, 2022	Good article nominee	Listed

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Assessment

Rated Start Class, Low Importance for WikiProject Songs and Kinks on 15:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC). Article is short, but well sourced and conveys all essential information. - I.M.S. (talk) 15:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 06:25, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

This is going to be reviewed by me today! --K. Peake 06:25, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

Write the genre out in the body to avoid using a citation in the infobox

Done.

Mention in the first sentence that it is from their sixth studio album, The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society (1968)

It wasn't actually on the album, it was a non-album single.

"It was released on" → "The song was released on"

Seems a bit repetitive, no? The sentences before and after also use "song" or "the song".

Move the release sentence to being after the writing/recording and inspiration sentences

For what reason? I've seen plenty of well written song articles that use this convention (e.g. "The Inner Light", "Old Brown Shoe", "Hey Jude").

Change the part after the recording to merely "during the sessions for the album."

See above.

Remove introduction to Dylan Thomas because that is sufficient solely in the body

Done.

"though Davies's resulting character" → "though his resulting character"

Done.

Remove the English composer introduction to David Whitaker since that is sufficient in the body only

Done.

Background and inspiration

Maybe you could write the genre out here and try titling in Background and composition?

Done.

"beyond have having the same name." → "beyond having the same name."

Fixed.

Quote box and second para look good, apart from the lack of a genre mention in the latter

Done.

Recording and release

"as the song's producer." → "as the song's sole producer."

Seems like an unnecessary word to me.

"in-house engineers," → "in-house engineers;"

I don't think it would be correct to use a semi-colon because "either Alan MacKenzie or Brian Humphires" is not an independent clause (MOS:SEMICOLON).

Remove wikilink on Rasa Davies since she does not have her own article or even a section

Done.

"to possibly features a" → "to possibly feature a"

Done.

"Davies selected "Polly" to" → "Ray Davies selected "Polly" to" per MOS:SAMESURNAME

I forgot to fix all these instances when I added Rasa's name in. By MOS:SAMESURNAME, I've changed the rest to "Ray" rather than "Davies".

"was "more rhythmic," → "is "more rhythmic,"

Done.

Any more reviews you could add here?

I unfortunately haven't been able to find any. Given that the A-side "Wonderboy" was such a failure, there was little attention afforded for this B-side.

"roughly a tenth of" → "roughly a 10th of" per MOS:NUM

I only see MOS:FRAC mentioning to avoid using ordinals like -th when spelling out fractions. Anyway, by MOS:FRAC, I've changed "a tenth" to "one-tenth".

"among the fifteen tracks" → "among the 15 tracks" per above

Fifteen is fine by MOS:NUM.

"The song has since" → "It has since"

Done.

Wikilink as compilation albums per WP:PIPE

Done.

Personnel

Remove wikilink on Rasa Davies

Done.

Notes

Good

References

Copyvio score looks great at 13.8%!!!

Citations

Good

Sources

Pipe Backbeat Books to UBM Technology Group

Done.

External links

Good

Final comments and verdict

On hold until all of the issues are fixed; that went very quickly! --K. Peake 06:57, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again K. Peake. Response above. Tkbrett (✉) 19:32, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tkbrett You should swap the release sentence with the writing/production since the creation comes before the actual release, also still introduction the record as their sixth studio album even though this is not part of it. --K. Peake 08:20, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

K. Peake, since there's no style guide at the Songs WikiProject, I'm basing my format on FAs. Among those, it seems pretty normal to have the release info in the first or second sentence of the lead, before anything else. See "Hey Jude", "Like a Rolling Stone", "I've Just Seen a Face", "Say Say Say", etc. Tkbrett (✉) 21:45, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Pass now, I understand your reasoning for not implementing the lead suggestion! --K. Peake 12:16, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]