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deleted vague item

I deleted a vague item describing pneuma as a greek philosophical concept which had no link. The page already notes that the term is used in Greek philosophy and medicine and provides links to discussions of each. Pneuma was not necessarily a term common to all Greek philosophy. If there is another use of the term that ought to be listed (and an article provided), please be more specific. You'll find the relation of pneuma to the World Soul under the link to the Stoic pneuma -- the concept is specific to Stoicism. The pneuma as a primal element is noted with the reference to Anaximenes. No article exists yet for the Aristotelian concept of pneuma, and the pneuma of ancient medicine is only a stub. Cynwolfe (talk) 18:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

question

In Greek would there have been a P at the begining of words that was not pronounced?--InismX (talk) 12:31, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's my understanding that the Greeks pronounced the p. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Image

The image shown in this page is not useful to the point of being misleading. It seems linked to pseudo-scientific concepts. Why does it say that the pneuma is composed of quark-gluon? That makes no sense. I think it should be replaced with some more useful diagram. Does anyone else agree? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.88.136.48 (talk) 18:43, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

-- I agree. The image here with mention of "quark-gluon" is nonsense crankery and should be removed. I shall remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.234.15.239 (talk) 23:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the above comments: the image is unhelpful and inappropriately refers to present-day scientific concepts. I have deleted it. If someone wishes to restore the image (it has been deleted and restored twice already) I suggest they give some explanation of why they think it is useful. ThessalonianR (talk) 14:59, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

not a dab

I think this page started as a disambiguation page, but really an article is needed. I link here, in the hope that such an article will one day blossom. It may be that Pneuma (ancient medicine) and Pneuma (Stoic) should be changed to redirects, and that material brought back here as subsections. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I figured as much. However, until the work is done, this is looks more like a messy disambiguation page than an article and a disambiguation page of some sort is needed as there are several ambiguous uses of the term (apart from the stoic and ancient medicine stubs):

Pneuma: The Journal of the Society for Pentecostal Studies
Pneuma (album)
Pneuma Recordings
Pneuma metal (though this is a new article likely to be deleted)

older ≠ wiser 17:12, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not very tidy, so the mess doesn't bother me. But reviewing the material (having worked with it before), it struck me that Pneuma (ancient medicine) and Aristotle's theory of pneuma would need to be treated together, so I dumped the content of the ancient med article back here. Pneuma (Stoic) seemed to merit an independent article, though that may be open to question; it does have two language links, but needs to have a section here because this may be one of those areas where the Stoics influenced or interacted with early Christian thinkers. Anyway, I hope this alleviates some of your concerns for now. Agree on the separate dab. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation.

Pneumatic 185.205.94.168 (talk) 00:50, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merged back in the spinoff articles

I'm not sure I see the benefit of having several different stub/start class articles for this one concept, especially because they're so inter-related and all built off of the influence of each other - it's not a case where the same word just happens to be used for very different things. I've merged them all, I think if the article gets long enough we could spin them back out but I think they should all be treated together here. - car chasm (talk) 07:21, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]