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Promotion

This article reads like an advertisement for the museum, down to including the prices for the airplane rides. This may have something to do with its references being almost entirely the organization's own website. If this isn't rectified, I'd recommend deletion. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 18:26, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After posting a warning, you should wait a few days before going to AfD. People don't check these talk pages that often. Anyway, I cleaned up some obvious ad junk. --MarsRover (talk) 19:07, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Planes of Fame East

No mention is made of the Planes of Fame East that was based out of Flying Cloud airport in Eden Prairie, MN (a suburb of Minneapolis). That museum was closed in 1997 and aircraft were relocated to Chino. Aircraft from that museum included:

Beech T-34B "Mentor" BuNo 140699, Boeing-Stearman N2S-3 "Kaydet" BuNo 38369, Curtiss TP-40N "Warhawk" sn 44-7084, Douglas A-26C "Invader" sn 41-39359, Eastern FM-2 "Wildcat" BuNo 55627, Eastern TMB-3E "Avenger" BuNo 53785, Federal Aircraft Factory (EKW) C-3605 Swiss C-483, Goodyear FG-1D "Corsair" BuNo 92629, Grumman F6F-5 "Hellcat" BuNo 94473, Grumman F8F-2 "Bearcat" N700A, Lockheed P-38J "Lightning" sn 44-23314, North American B-25J "Mitchell" sn 44-86747, North American P-51D "Mustang" sn 44-84753, North American T-6G "Texan" sn 49-3402, North American T-28B "Trojan" BuNo 140041, Piper J-3C "Cub" N28118, Republic P-47D "Thunderbolt" sn 45-49205, Stearman PT-17 "Kaydet" sn 42-16830, Supermarine "Spitfire" Mk. XIV N114BP, Yakovlev YAK-11 "Moose" N25YK,

Proposed changes

Correct error in history. Museum moved to Ontario in 1963, not 1962.

Collection: Change format so it looks cleaner. Hard to read. For aircraft listed as being under restoration, the information is incorrect. They are restored by volunteers, not the restoration shop (Fighter Rebuilders). Also, the Mohawk is not undergoing restoration.

The monthly events are not 'mini airshows' they are referred to as Living History Events. Also, other than rare occassions, they do not fly 2 - 3 aircraft at the Living History Events. They normally fly a single aircraft.

475th - The hangar has been built for years. This section is out of date.

Additionally, I would like to update pictures on the page as the ones there look like they are from the 70's.

I am a museum member and occasional volunteer with Planes of Fame — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fly1katana (talk • contribs) 16:42, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Updates to the the article are always welcome, but since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, they must be sourced to reliable sources. If you have refs that we can cite, then these can be added.

The photos each have dates on them, if you click on the photos themselves and check the file info. At least one is from 2013 and the rest are all since 2000, it seems. More photos are always welcome, too, but you need to take them yourself or have written permission to use them.

The article has has some recent problems with some new editors trying to copy and paste copyrighted text from the museum's website into the article, in violation of US copyright law and so this has had to be quickly removed to avoid legal issues. It would be far better to revise the text and footnote it all properly. - Ahunt (talk) 17:57, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References for Museum History

Below are 37 references to newspaper articles from the museum's early history that may be useful for improving the article:

"Air Museum Opens Jan. 12 in Claremont". Progress-Bulletin. 28 December 1956. p. 2. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Opening Air Museum". Progress-Bulletin. 11 January 1957. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
Signor, Robert H. (9 February 1958). "West's First Air Museum". Independent-Press-Telegram. p. 8. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"New Planes are Added to Museum". Progress-Bulletin. 6 June 1958. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Air Museum Isn't Closing". Progress-Bulletin. 12 June 1958. p. 2. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Last Sabrejet to Be Added to Museum". Progress-Bulletin. 9 February 1959. p. 8. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Two World War II Air Foes Readied for Museum Duty". Progress-Bulletin. 12 July 1959. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Seek L. B. Site for Air Museum". Press-Telegram. 14 October 1960. p. B-2. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Air Museum Ponders Move to L.B." Press-Telegram. 2 November 1960. p. B-2. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Chamber Backs Air Museum". Independent. 8 December 1960. p. B-12. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Air Museum Has German Jet Fighter". Progress-Bulletin. 13 January 1961. p. 2. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Claremont Keeps Air Museum Home". The Citizen-News. 4 February 1961. p. 28. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"3 Airplanes in Museum are Damaged". Progress-Bulletin. 29 November 1961. p. 10. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Heading for Museum". Daily Record. 29 March 1962. p. 5. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Claremont Air Museum Sending Fighters to Miramar Air Show". Progress-Bulletin. 6 April 1962. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Air Museum Proposes Move to Torrance". Los Angeles Times. 8 July 1962. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Planners Study Offer to Make Torrance Site of Air Museum". Los Angeles Times. 5 August 1962. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Claremont Air Museum Flies Aircraft to Las Vegas Show". Progress-Bulletin. 23 September 1962. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Torrance 'Airport Days' Show This Weekend". News-Pilot. 28 September 1962. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Air Museum Wants Torrance Location". Progress-Bulletin. 8 November 1962. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Claremont Air Museum Leaders Seek Move to Ontario Airport". Progress-Bulletin. 13 March 1963. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Air Museum Turned Down by Ontario". Progress-Bulletin. 20 March 1963. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Air Museum to Locate in Ontario". Progress-Bulletin. 3 April 1963. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Ceremony Planned by Museum". Progress-Bulletin. 24 July 1963. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Air Museum Plans Opening Saturday". Progress-Bulletin. 1 August 1963. p. 2. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
Craig, Lee (8 August 1963). "Famed Old Aircraft Shown at Ontario". Independent-Press-Telegram. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Air Museum". News-Pilot. 11 December 1963. p. 1. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"World War II Plane to Go on Display". Progress-Bulletin. 29 March 1964. p. 2. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
"Famed Bomber Goes on Display Here". Progress-Bulletin. 4 April 1964. p. 16. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
Frank, Ann (29 November 1964). "History of Aviation Traced At Museum". Los Angeles Times. p. 12. Retrieved 17 February 2022.
Ellis, Howard (24 September 1965). "Air Giants at Rest". The Sun. p. B-1. Retrieved 18 February 2022.
Metz, Leonard (18 October 1965). "An Old Warrior Comes Home". The Sun. pp. B-1, B-3. Retrieved 18 February 2022.
Anderson, Bob (12 February 1968). "Ed Maloney's Air Museum Preserves Aviation's Past". Tracy Press. p. 5. Retrieved 18 February 2022.
Taylor, Frank (19 April 1970). "Local Collector Amasses Offbeat Private Air Force". Valley News. Retrieved 18 February 2022.
"Air Museum to Donate 25 Planes". Los Angeles Times. 4 June 1970. p. 2. Retrieved 18 February 2022.
Holbrook, Neil (8 September 1970). "Old War Bird Fowls Out". p. B-1. Retrieved 18 February 2022.
"Air Museum's Gone". Daily Report. 12 November 1970. pp. B-1, B-7. Retrieved 18 February 2022.

–Noha307 (talk) 00:52, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]