Talk:Pinoy Big Brother: Kumunity Season 10
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Nomination history table and the McLisse visit issues
[edit]Hello there, EdrianJustine. This is what will the table will look if Alexa uses her power to automatically nominate another housemate. This style of writing was used in the previous season. And in the previous seasons, when there is something different in the nomination process (just like when the House was divided into groups), their nominees are specified by some color. Basically what I am saying is, a nominator's choice is and continues to be in plain writing, not in bold. If there is some twist on the nomination process... what the previous writers in the past articles usually do or implement is to add a background color or to colorize the name of the housemate that was nominated, not by writing it in bold.
Can you specifically cite the seasons or international seasons that do the thing you want to implement? I have seen the double up and unlimited seasons, the thing you wanted to add was not used there.
#1 | #2 | #3 | #4 | #5 | #6 | #7 | #8 | #9 | #10 | Nominations Received | |
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Eviction Day and Date |
Day 22 Nov. 6 |
Day 29 Nov. 13 |
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Nomination Day and Date |
Day 16 Oct. 31 |
Day 23 Nov. 7 |
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Alexa | John Shanaia |
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With regards to the McLisse visit issue, that shouldn't be added in the summary of events. Just because something happened inside the House, it does not need to be added in that section. The summary is supposedly for the events that the housemates had or will have any participation. The couple's visit was merely of their own choice to do, not of the program's. It even does not have anything to do with the occupants of the show. To the extreme, I could even suggest that it shouldn't be added in the article since it does not have anything to do with the show. They have just appeared in the show, that's it. It is irrelevant to the housemates. That's why we could not consider them as houseguests, cause they never had any interaction with the housemates.
For the meantime, until these issues are resolved... please do not revert any of my edits. That was the status quo before this edit revert warring has started.--AR E N Z O Y 1 6A•t a l k• 06:48, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
McLisse Issue
[edit]Their visit should be included in the "Summary of Events" section as
a. This is all in all, a reality show, and according to the showrunners, the soap opera of real life. So it would be best to add all events in this section, which serves as a synopsis of the show itself. b. This was treated and advertised as a house event, so it must be treated as one here too. EdrianJustine (talk) 23:45, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Just because it's a show, it does not automatically mean that every event in the House should be included in the article. The purpose of the "summary of events" section is to include all important events that were relevant to the show and specifically to the housemates. Was the McLisse appearance relevant to the show? Probably, for ratings/viewership purposes. But is it relevant to the show's core? Nope. Their appearance was not relevant to the housemates. Sure, you can call the show as a soap opera, with the housemates being the main casts. But where are we going to cast the couple? None. They are irrelevant to the story. They were simply characters who just accidently appeared in the background.
- Again, the summary of events are limited to important events. That has been the norm since season 1. I have been editing Pinoy Big Brother articles for a decade now, I know what I am saying.
- Thank you though for your hard work in editing the article. But let's just keep everything simple and follow the old rules (unless they need to be tweaked).--AR E N Z O Y 1 6A•t a l k• 10:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- Although this may be a late response, but I believe this has to be implemented in future articles. For any instance that a guest enters the house for some random reason, somehow similar to McLisse, should be added in a separate "List of episodes" article, rather than including them in the mother season's article. This has to be followed in future seasons.
- Best regards, Xander Wu (talk) 14:57, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Madam Inutz naming issue
[edit]Hi EdrianJustine, Jfect22, SeanJ 2007, NewManila2000, Nic Matinik and Akuindo. Since all of us here have edited this article for this current month, I would like to ask your opinion and help come up with a consensus in dealing this problem.
Firstly, I have reduced "Madam Inutz" name to simply as "Madam" in the nomination table in order to make the cells' width more equal as the table. Keeping "Madam" is for brevity. Moreso, in some instances, the show calls her informally as just "Madam". Same goes with her vlog followers and the housemates themselves call her as just that. Also, in comparison, Brenda Mage is called "Brenda" almost of the time, but her branding/stage name stays the same. It would be inconsistent to disregard the same with Madam Inutz.
I will go against in naming her in the table as "M. Inutz." EdrianJustine wanted it to be written in that way. Usually, in the articles of previous seasons or in other versions of the show, they add a letter to a name to differentiate him/her to another housemate who has a similar name. For example, if there are two housemates named as John Carlos and Pete Carlos, their names in the articles were shortened to J. Carlos and P. Carlos... just to show the difference.--AR E N Z O Y 1 6A•t a l k• 12:28, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
It would just best to leave it at "Madam Inutz" as several big brother articles have proven that using unabbreviated names in the voting history charts is fine. Additionally, the show calls and refers to her as "Madam Inutz" in both social media and in the show. EdrianJustine (talk) 12:54, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
The matter on multiple eviction (double, triple, etc.)
[edit]To @Renzoy16 and all editors and contributors concerned,
Given that this season introduced the process of evicting two housemates (double eviction) or more (in the case of a triple eviction), it concerns me to learn that the order on how the housemates were evicted are not being arranged well somehow, especially during the Celebrity Edition. How are we going to discuss and address this matter, and have this matter used in future Pinoy Big Brother articles? Your responses are very much appreciated. Please tag the other contributors to have this matter discussed. Thank you!
Best regards, Xander Wu (talk) 14:52, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have not been watching the show for months now. But there is a simple fix for that. The order should be determined on how they they were called. So, the first one called should be the last, while the second or third should be at the top.--AR E N Z O Y 1 6A•t a l k• 00:09, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Splitting the article Into 4 Articles
[edit]It would probably be best to divide the article into the following articles, with the Biga-10 phase being left on this article.
- Pinoy Big Brother: Kumunity Season 10 – Celebrity Edition
- Pinoy Big Brother: Kumunity Season 10 – Adult Edition
- Pinoy Big Brother: Kumunity Season 10 – Teen Edition
I believe that the four batches have vast differences in their formatting and it would be best for them to have their own articles. In addition, with the page's size being around 415 kb, it would be best to split it into more manageable subpages in order to address the problems they may face and for the reader to soak in the season's information more effectively.
- SLR, I created the separate articles for Adults and Teens. For the celebrities, it is currently a redirect and a draft of the subject exists, I requested at WP:RM/TR to fix this. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 14:30, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
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