Talk:Pierre-Aurèle Asselin

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The discography is problematic. All the Blue and Purple Amberol cylinders would have been dubbed from diamond disc masters, with the latter format accordingly being the principal form of issue. For example, diamond disc 74001 contains Chaminade's Tu me dirais and Madrigal on one side, Pessard's L'Adieu du Matin and Gregh's Priez, aimez, chantez on the other. For each, the probable recording date is March 1918 (but see below), according to https://adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/objects/detail/233944/Edison_74001 -- and I own a copy of the disc, which matches the database entries. So the article's entries for those selections should be along the lines of

Edison diamond disc 74001 Madrigal by Cécile Chaminade (Tenor solo in French, with orchestra) (also released as Blue Amberol 27183)

I lack the skill to manipulate the entries into that form without making a hopeless mess of the formatting. I hope someone more skilled will step in and address the issue.

For what it's worth, other discs that I own and for which I can vouch are the following:

74002 Adam, Cantique de Noel and Théodore-César Salomé, O Salutaris
74004 Gounod, Mireille, Act V -- Anges du Paradis and Romeo et Juliette, Act II -- Ah! Leve-Toi, Soleil!

Discs that I don't own but that are listed in Edison Diamond Disc Recreations: Records and Artists 1910-1929 and corroborated by Girard and Barnes, Vertical-Cut Cylinders and Discs include these:

74003 Massenet, Manon--La Reve and Thomas, Mignon--Elle Ne Croyait Pas
74005 Delibes, Arioso (O Mer, Ouvre-Toi) and Massenet, Le Cid--O Souverain, O Juge, O Pere

The sources squabble about dates. For instance, for 74001 the American Historical Recordings database has May 1918, Girard and Barnes give 1919, the printed discography has 5/1920 for the Chaminade side and 9/26/1919 for the Pessard/Gregh, and on the evidence of the article's discography the U California project has Chaminade as 1918 and Pessard as 1919. Given the article discography's organization by year, that's a big problem. I'd suggest reorganizing by composer to facilitate listing the alternatives if we can't pin down who's right. I'm guessing the American Historical Recordings database is the best bet, being the most recent.

Disc to cylinder correspondences, from Girard and Barnes:

74001: Tu me dirais was Blue Amberol 27183; Priez, aimez was Blue Amberol 27184; no cylinder issue shown for the Pessard or the Chaminade Madrigal, but the article's discography shows 27183 for the Madrigal (same-side coupling of Tu me) and omits Priez, aimez entirely. It does show L'Adieu, the same-side coupling for Priez, as 27184. I'm guessing both selections from each side, not just the one shown with a number in G&B, appeared together on the corresponding cylinder, but I have no proof. Note that the article erroneously attributes L'Adieu to "Pessard and Gregh," whereas in fact that's only by Pessard, with Gregh having written the coupling Priez, aimez, chantez.
74002: O salutaris was Blue Amberol 27185; Cantique de Noel was Blue Amberol 27182
74003: Elle ne croyait pas was Purple Amberol 29010; Le reve was Purple Amberol 29065
74004: Ah, leve-toi was Purple Amberol 29055; Anges du Paradis was Purple Amberol 29061
74005 O souverain was Purple Amberol 29047; no cylinder issue shown for the Delibes side

Drhoehl (talk) 02:27, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]