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"Pagidlawin" vs. "Pagid Lawin"

I note some recent changes in this article "Pagidlawin" to "Pagid Lawin". My wife tells me that the two-word version of this means "Eagle's Nest". I can't find any references to the two-word version of this in the books I have on Philippine history. Does this usage have any historical validity, or is it a vanity-driven stylistic revision c. 2008? If the latter, it should be changed back.

Also—another topic, but related—it seems to me from what I've read that Wikipedia should have an article named Cry of Pagdilawin, and that Cry of Balintawak should redirect to that article. It surprises me that neither article exists, as both phrases are often seen in browsing material about the Philippine revolution. I could create such an article as a bare-bones stub containing the material I've recently added to the Cry of Pagdilawin section of this article, but others more knowledgeable than myself could probably make a better job of it. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 00:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Cry of Pugadlawin

A very notable event, but I can't find it here. Any reaction?--JL 09Talk to me! 22:39, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Before GA Review

I saw that this article is under the possibility of upgrading to GA status after a review. However, having reviewed articles before for GA, and not having the time (presently) to do a full GA review I would withdraw this article for now as much needs to be done.

  • Whole Paragraphs are without an inline citation
  • Multiple tags exist and should first be addressed before submitting for GA assessment
  • Article should be checked against MOS
  • Article needs to be checked against NPOV

One can wish to continue without doing these things first, however it is my humble opinion that without at least those things such an assessment would currently fail this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:59, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Additionally I would suggest before going for GA nomination, have this article reviewed by WP:PRH; this will help in your edits to bring it up to standard before nomination to GA.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:06, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

At present this article's review would be subject to a quickfail, IMHO.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:14, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: TRLIJC19 (talk · contribs) 03:11, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

 Doing... TRLIJC19 (talk) 03:11, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Valid maintenance templates and citation needed tags:
    • Two CN tags
    • Top of article has a notice for rewrite and cleanup
    • Liberalism (1869-1871) cites no sources, and there is a template to remind
    • Rise of Filipino nationalism cites no sources, and has a template for that and factual accuracy
    • Criollo insurgencies is lacking in citations, as specified in the template
    • La Solidaridad, La Liga Filipina and the Propaganda Movement is lacking in citations, as specified in the template
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS| for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
  • Quickfail under #3 of the QF criteria. Sorry, the article lacks citations completely in several sections, as well as partially in other sections. There are valid {{citation needed}} tags, as well as numerous ref, cleanup, and rewrite tags. The prose is problematic, with MOS and NPOV concerns, in addition to reading like a poor translation in need of a rewrite and copyedit by a native English speaker. I recommend addressing the citation issues, getting it copyedited by the Guild of Copyeditors, and then renominating. TRLIJC19 (talk) 03:29, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Cuba as belligerent

Why is Cuba listed as a belligerent under the Spain? Were there units individually designated as being under the Captaincy General of Cuba that was involved during the Philippine Revolution? I do not presently see any reliable source stating so. Therefore, for now I shall remove it from the infobox per WP:BURDEN.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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Spanish/American victory

Technically wasn't it a Spanish victory as the Filipinos never won the war and much less the battles fought? Not to mention it was America that won manilla while Filipinos only acted as auxiliary troops for the Americans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:DF:8000:4786:0:2:95DF:1D37 (talk) 22:57, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

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