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Bacon's "extremist views"

Is there a source for Bacon being known to have "extremist views" To me hanging beheading and quatering a human being for rebellion represent extremism in this article i.e. Saying Bacon had extremist views is the POV of the forces he Bacon was fighting against. I will change it to "revolutionary views" OK? Hampden Clubs one of which Bacon set up locally were "to promote the idea of a forum for political debate among ordinary people" hardly extreme unless you are the Prince Regent— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.118.67 (talk) 21:56, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect page name/heading.

Like myself and anyone else living local to the area, or indeed anyone I've ever discussed this with, the historical event is known as 'The Pentrich Revolution' not 'rising'. Surely the page name should be changed to 'The Pentrich Revolution' and then in the text referred as ' - also known as The Pentrich rising'? I must declare an interest having traced my family back to Pentrich around 1800, however other sources overwhelmingly support my point: Here's the link for the local history group: http://pentrichrevolution.org.uk/ Here's The Guardian's article: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/jun/07/englands-forgotten-armed-uprising-pentrich-revolution-celebrated-derbyshire Here's the Local Government's leaflet : http://info.ambervalley.gov.uk/docarc/docviewer.aspx?docGuid=3514f6233182445c93afa6edca209e46 and Local Government's visitor information: http://www.ambervalley.gov.uk/leisure-and-culture/tourism-and-travel/pentrich-revolution.aspx I'm hoping for clear consensus. Martski (talk) 19:25, 18 August 2017 (UTC) No adverse comments have been made. I intend to change the page name soon.[reply]

Change title page

Please note my previous comments.

Please can someone change the title of the page to Pentrich Revolution instead of 'rising' as I don't know how. As stated four years ago it never was called 'rising or uprising' always Revolution!? Search all the sources I gave then.

I am open to persuasion, but it could be stretching things a bit to describe it as a revolution. PatGallacher (talk) 13:28, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No it isn't. Judging in modern terms an incident which at the time, and still locally, is called the Pentrich Revolution. I have lived nearby or within the area for decades and do not need to to justify my point as even the local council and celebrations are known as 'Revolution' events etc. Martski22 (talk) 11:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also please note the official sources I provide in my post. Martski22 (talk) 11:34, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect title page - will be changed in one month

Please note my previous points. The correct title for this historical incident is 'The Pentrich Revolution' and not 'rising'. All local organisations, Local Government etc. always refer to the 'Revolution' - whoever used the term 'rising' clearly is not local to the area or knows its full history.

To repeat, this page is incorrectly titled and I intend to change it again - unless someone provides evidence that it is termed 'rising' by some official or local (Derbyshire) organisation. Martski22 (talk) 11:42, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]