Talk:Paramachaerodus

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On 30 September 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Paramachairodus to Paramachaerodus. The result of the discussion was moved.

Canine length

And... How much long were it's fangs aproximately?

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Systematic revision of the Late Miocene sabre-toothed felidParamachaerodus in Spain given in http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1475-4983.2010.01013.x/full

--Wyken Seagrave (talk) 11:06, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Body length

Just to compare, their principal measurement, length I guess or height if you prefer, what was it?

I've now added this Anaxial 18:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New papers, proposed split of P. orgyria

This paper recognizes Paramachaerodus orientalis, and Pa. maximiliani, and elevates Pa. orygia to Promegantereon ogygia SALESA, MANUEL J. (2010). "Systematic revision of the Late Miocene sabre-toothed felid Paramachaerodus in Spain". Palaeontology. 53 (6): 1369–1391. doi:10.1111/j.1475-4983.2010.01013.x. {{cite journal}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

Several recent studies similarly recognize Promegantereon orygia (approx 40 hits on Google Scholar), which suggests a new article should be created. A recent phylogenetic analysis finds Promegantereon as basal to a clade comprising Paramachaerodus and all other Machairodonts, further supporting the distinction.--Animalparty-- (talk) 22:05, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly should be split into two genus articles, also confirmed by Antón 2015. FunkMonk (talk) 03:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Citation needed

Could someone please find a source for P. transasiaticus? It is only mentioned in the infobox, with no source given. Moreover, it is not mentioned in any of the first three refs for the article, nor in Big Cats and their fossil relatives.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 23:19, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be described in this article: A new species of Paramachaerodus (Mammalia, Carnivora, Felidae) from the late Miocene of China and Bulgaria, and revision of Promegantereon Kretzoi, 1938 and Paramachaerodus Pilgrim, 1913. ^[1] Jts1882 | talk 16:34, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Li, Y.; Spassov, N. (2017). "A new species of Paramachaerodus (Mammalia, Carnivora, Felidae) from the late Miocene of China and Bulgaria, and revision of Promegantereon Kretzoi, 1938 and Paramachaerodus Pilgrim, 1913". PalZ. 91: 409. doi:10.1007/s12542-017-0371-7.

Added brief description of this new species to text. Jts1882 | talk 09:17, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 30 September 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:55, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Paramachairodus → Paramachaerodus – Several authors (such as this very recent one:https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10914-022-09622-8) spell it as "Paramachaerodus", not "Paramachairodus". Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 20:42, 30 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:40, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 20:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, Paramachairodus is the proper name as proposed by the original authors, Paramachaerodus is a misspelling. The fact that it's been used recently does not justify a page move. SilverTiger12 (talk) 22:26, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If it's a misspelling, then why do the authors use that misspelling? Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 22:28, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. This seems to be one of those messy situations where the rules of the zoological code conflict with common sense. It was named by Pilgrim 1913 and he used Paramachaerodus according to the sources I could find (I couldn't find the original work, though). Given the new genus name was based on Machairodus and its placement in Machairodontinae, common sense would say it should be Paramachairodus. Whether this is a mistake by Pilgrim or a deliberate difference (perhaps he favoured Machaerodontinae), the ICZN rules give priority to the name used to describe the genus, not the subsequent "correction" (by Zdansky?). All the recent scientific works I looked at use Paramachaerodus, as do the Wikidata resources (fossilworks, etc). — Jts1882 | talk 09:05, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's similar to Eopachyrucos and Propachyrucos, which use the original, erroneous spelling of Pachyrukhos (Pachyrucos). Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 11:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per Jts1882. YorkshireExpat (talk) 17:25, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

paramachairodus habitat. by Alianys

Paramachairodus habitat did not a lot of plants or trees. by Alianys 2601:985:4180:5FC0:16C1:9C8:F979:2DD9 (talk) 02:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Li, Y.; Spassov, N. (2017). "A new species of Paramachaerodus (Mammalia, Carnivora, Felidae) from the late Miocene of China and Bulgaria, and revision of Promegantereon Kretzoi, 1938 and Paramachaerodus Pilgrim, 1913". PalZ. 91: 409. doi:10.1007/s12542-017-0371-7.

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