Talk:Pancake machine

Pancake machine has been listed as one of the Agriculture, food and drink good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: March 9, 2016. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Pancake machine appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 August 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a completely automated pancake machine was invented in Portland, Oregon, in 1928?

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Dharmadhyaksha (talk · contribs) 04:09, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will start the review of this article and do minor corrections myself. Will come back with other points here. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:09, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

All images are from Commons and properly licensed
No disambiguation links found
No copyvios likely from Earwig's Copyvio Detector
Please add Category:Cooking appliances.

Done. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:01, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Time required for making pancakes should be mentioned for some machines. For example, Vendo's machine made it in 3 minutes as per the source. See if data for some others is also available.

Done. See diff, diff, diff. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:45, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Kiwanis machine makes 750 to 1000 pancakes per hour. Did you skip mentioning it because it actually was just a hot plate and required 4 people to run it?

I have expanded the article to include more content about this particular machine (diff). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:24, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please add "as of 2014" to 7000 machines sold sentence.

Done. Added: "and as of July 2014" North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If am not wrong, "semi automatic" should be "semi-automatic".

Y I agree. Changed to "semi-automatic" in article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:16, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The article nowhere mentions any reviews of these specific machines or just pancakes machines in general. There might be some chefs, food critics, food writers who have written about quality of these machines. Something on those lines would be better to include.

Y Reviews for commercial machines are not readily found, but I have added some review information for consumer models (diff). I hesitate to add more, because I don't want the article to resemble a shopper's guide in any manner, shape or form. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sizes of commercial pancake machines might be difficult to mention and also quite varying for being custom made. But for home-use machines approximate sizes can be mentioned.

Done. See diff. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:01, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In-line with above point, and being a machine, some technical aspects needs to be covered in the article. We are so used to electricity that we have missed mentioning the basic thing that this is an electric powered machine we are talking about. Others aspects to be covered would be like power ratings and heating techniques used (Induction heater or Resistive heating or whatever).

Sources may not be readily available to fulfill aspects of this request. I couldn't find any information about power ratings. Regarding heating techniques, there is some information in the article: "... a heated conveyor inside of a box unit", "... cook both sides of a pancake simultaneously", "It was a semi-automatic machine that performed all of the cooking functions except for ...". I have also added some content clarifying the electrical nature of the products (diff, diff). Most of the available reliable sources do not expound upon the technical electrical elements of the machines (see example source searches below). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:10, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Done @Northamerica1000: Its fine if no information is available.

Last point. Seems that commercially and popularly, simple pancake batter dispensers are also known as "pancake machines". See this product on Amazon for example. This could be mentioned somewhere. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:59, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. That seems like a marketing ploy / original research how a person chose to describe a simple electric mixer on their Amazon listing to make something simple sound like a neat gadget and encourage higher sales volume. One could get the same result using Tupperware and a blender. I don't think this fits into the scope of the article, because it's just a blender. Perhaps this could be mentioned in the electric mixer article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:37, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with your statement. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:10, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The six good article criteria checks

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The article is well written and good job @Northamerica1000:. Congratulations for the new GA!! §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:10, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are outlined below:

The history section stops at 1956. While other sections of the article mention other events and products, I think the history section should be updated with more information or the prose in the article reformatted.
There doesn't seem to be any post-2015 information.
The last paragraph in "History" is uncited
The lead does not summarise all major aspects of the article.

Is anyone interested in fixing up this article or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 04:10, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]