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Indonesia Mid‑importance

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Malaysia Mid‑importance

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Contradiction

This article contains contradiction. In the first section, it implies that the project was completed in 1997. In the update section, it says the project has yet to be completed. Furthermore, out of 1047.18km, a distance of 997.18km was completed in 1997. Though possible, it's a doubtful statement given that the project started in 1963. I hope somebody with the proper knowledge (preferably the original author) would consider copyediting this article again and give extra scrutiny to its facts. __earth ^(Talk) 06:50, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The update section was from July of an unknown year, so I removed it as it did not contribute to the article from my understanding. A recent source concerning this highway would allow for improvements to the article, because as it stands now basically everything is unsourced and there is no information concerning the highway's completion. Cowman109 ^Talk 21:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lebuhraya?

is "lebuhraya" the correct name or translation of 'Highway' in BM? from my understanding "lebuhraya" means "expressway", "freeway", "motorway" or "autobahn". PBH standard is definitely not motorway standards. but maybe lebuhraya is the umbrella term like highway (?) --kawaputra 09:24, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

in Brunei....

Unlike mentioned in the article, most Bruneians never knew the existence of the Borneo highway which uses the roads in Brunei. This is because the stretch of highway that are in Brunei are not labeled as Trans Borneo Highway instead its just a number of main roads including 3 highways which includes the Muara-Tutong Highway, Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah Highway, Tutong- Belait Highway..... Keep88 13:37, 25 May 2007(UTC)

There's also the Seria Bypass, the Lumut Bypass and the Rasau Road --Novelty 17:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Intersections

Two things at work here.

The section heading shouldn't repeat the article subject, per MOS:HEAD.
The entire table needs to be rebuilt to comply with MOS:RJL.

Imzadi 1979 → 08:43, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some more comments.

Why are there icons in the headings? They shouldn't be there per the MOS. The anchors added don't address the issues. They're still using graphics as the only way to impart information, and that's not acceptable.
Links shouldn't be in the headings either.
All of the tables should be merged together into a single one.
I combined some lines inside one table. The standard format is: "<icons> <highways/roads> – <destinations separated by commas>". Now, if I messed something up, feel free to fix it, but the idea is that the format used currently is non-standard and it takes up a lot of vertical space. Especially to those of us who don't speak the language of the area (I've guessed that "jalan" is highway or road, or the equivalent), but a vertical list like that doesn't tell me if these are roads or places, or what.
Numbers less than ten should be spelled out in things like "four-way intersection", "six-way roundabout", etc.
The "route" column needs to be pulled. Am I to understand that the Pan Boreno Highway changes numbers frequently? If so, the transitions should be in the notes. Again, graphics cannot be used alone in place of text. To a blind reader using software that reads this article, he'll get "Jkr-ft1-15.png" instead of "1-15". Nothing explains this, but if we used a note that says "Becomes 1-15 northbound" notes column , then the reader will understand that the number changed.

I'm sure that I'll have more comments later. Keep up the good work though on getting this fixed up. If we can get one good table, it can serve as a model for the rest of the articles. Imzadi 1979 → 10:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting the Pan Borneo exit list

Hi all,

Looks like the Pan Borneo Highway article is finally in the process of major overhaul for better quality standard. However, in order to achieve that, the exit lists of the highway should be put into the respective routes' articles, rather than overfilling this article, as the entire highway is really long.

The exit lists for Malaysian section should be put under the following route articles:-

In addition, we also need some Indonesian Wikipedians to write about the Trans Kalimantan Highway (Jalan Lintas Kalimantan) to complement the Pan Borneo Highway article. Cheers. - Hezery99 (talk) 11:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a motorway?

In the article, it suggested this road is a motorway, with the UK panel: .

Is this road a motorway, or is it an expressway?

Other article suggest that Symbol and highway shield of the Malaysian expressways is

I believe that motorways defines one kind of road standard in Europe (including UK) while express way defines a separate standard used in Malaysia while similarities might exist between those two standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.67.188.213 (talk) 10:37, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]