Talk:Paleolimnology

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Added Content

I recently added some content regarding paleoclimate proxies including sediment cores and pollen records to the page as a part of a college class assignment. Please feel free to make changes or give comments. Hope I was able to help contribute! Sylerb 06:16, 12 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sylerb (talk • contribs)

looking for a goo textbook or chapter type overview, please

All the refs here are foundational papers. Is there some review of the field itself?

Critique (for my Global Climate Change class) - Malcolm Guy

My name is Malcolm Guy. I am currently a student at The Ohio State University. I am writing this critique for a class on Global Climate Change.

The article does a good job explaining the history of Paleolimnologic study. It explains how theories on internal lake processes evolved over time, and the science supporting each theory. It also addresses how humans have impacted lakes (acid rain versus soil leaching). It is therefore strong with regard to the history of the study of Paleolimnology.

This article is moderate on its data analysis. It provides no specific studies in the article itself, and instead only has links to studies in the references section. I recommend adding some data into the article itself, with accompanying graphs and figures, to make understanding the science easier. In order to do this, I recommend adding scientific datasets from an accredited source, such as Drexel University's Academy of Natural Sciences. The article does not make assumptions about the topic, nor does it address strength or weaknesses of the proxy method.

This article fails to answer the fundamental question "why does this matter." It does not explain the importance of studying Paleolimnology with regard to measuring the human impacts on the climate. It needs to have a section entirely devoted to explaining the importance of Paleolimnology in layman's terms.

I also believe that adding more peer-reviewed articles on Paleolimnology would be beneficial. The Journal of Paleolimnology (already on this article) or Frontiers in Ecology and Evolution's publication Using Paleolimnology for Lake Restoration and Management (not featured in this article) are good examples.

I recommend that adding more visual aids such as graphs would aid in understanding the value of Paleolimnology as a proxy of climate change. In addition, explaining the importance of Paleolimnology as a proxy of climate change in layman's terms would be helpful. Finally, adding more datasets and peer reviewed articles to support the science would make this article better.

MGUY10 (talk) 22:12, 22 February 2017 (UTC) Malcolm Guy

Critique (for Global Climate Change Course)

The paleolimnology page does a good job of initially defining its topic and fleshing out the different focus areas and uses of this discipline of science. Most definitions I found from Dictionary.com, the geosciences webpage of the University of Arizona, and NOAA, the given definitions were often shorter and unclear, only including a few sentences. In this way, this articles initial definition is substantive.

However, this page lacks significant mention of any assumptions of this proxy method or how its data is analyzed. Links are provided to NOAAs online data collection as well as the website or the Journal of Paleolimnology, but this information should not have to searched for by the reader, a good Wikipedia article should portray a neutral tone of its subject and thus include strengths and weaknesses. This proxy method, as all proxies, does have some weaknesses. The listed academic articles are not current, only 7 are cited and only 1 of those is from the past 15 years. Most are used to establish the history of the proxy method; however more recent information should be included to show how paleolimmnology is used today. Here are 2 academic peer-reviewed articles from 2017 that could be added: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10933-016-9938-7 http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10933-017-9947-1

It is recommended that assumptions of the practice be added as well as weaknesses in order to show a neutral view of the topic and give the reader as much information as possible. Additionally, there is only one subsection in this article (history) and if there is a history section there should be a “modern uses” or some parallel section which could modernize the information provided. Beccam51 (talk) 15:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

References

Critique Geog 3900

This article is very informative about what Paleolimnology is and the history behind it. Another critique that I have would be that there are very few assumptions. Whenever given direct information there is citations from others work. Although the article includes information about the history of Paleolimnology, there is still information that is left out because there are no current sources. Not having current sources means that all of this information could have changed over time. And also in the training it states that every good article includes visual aids and this article does not include any. The article includes the conflicting views of others which creates a more neutral tone to the article but in order to be a "good" article it must cause interest to the reader and must have more data sets to support evidence.

Like states previously the references are outdated. There should be more recent references because things do change over time. The first Peer reviewed article that I researched included references that start at 2007 which gives more recent information. Not only does this article include the history but it discusses the overall issue of the topic. The second article that I researched included the process and not just the overall outline of the topic. Although it lacks more than two sources, the sources are still up to date.

My two recommendations would be to include images and graphs in the article and to switch out some of the older references with newer references.

Two references: http://lakes.chebucto.org/PALEO/paleo.html http://www.sciencedirect.com.proxy.lib.ohio-state.edu/science/article/pii/S0031018210003172

Tazia712 (talk) 02:02, 28 February 2017 (UTC)Natazia Lewis

Article Critique GEOG 3900

Firstly, the article opens up very strong with a clear and accurate definition about what a paleolimnology actually is in detail. In addition, the author does provide a strong history. In terms of data analysis, there are some glaring errors. The biggest issue is that the analysis is not located on the actual page, but rather through external links. The information from the external links could be extracted from the external links and embedded in the article. If this were to happen, then the reader could get a clear picture. There is also a lack of graphs or charts that could ease the understanding of the reader. Unfortunately, this article does not make assumptions. There is no emphasis on the significance of paleolimnology to climate change. The proxy methods strength and weakness do not appear vividly in this article, which is a contributor to the absence of assumptions. There is great detail about what paleolimnology is, but a huge lack in references, which could give a deeper understanding to the reader of how it connects to climate. Two peer-reviewed articles that could contribute to improving this article are http://www.sciencedirect.com.proxy.lib.ohio-state.edu/science/article/pii/B9780444536433002363 and http://www.sciencedirect.com.proxy.lib.ohio-state.edu/science/article/pii/B9780444536433002387.

There are two recommendations that I find to be particularly most noticeable, which would ultimately improve the article as a whole. First, I have an issue with the references because they are so out of date. There should be references that have been developed more recently. This would benefit the article because it would provide more information as much has been researched since the references used. Secondly, I would recommend that the author goes into more detail about climate change and paleolimnology's role in developing it. Gagliardi.23 (talk) 05:21, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

References

OSU GEOG 3900 Andrew Bollenbacher

Article: Paleolimnology

Analysis of Article -

Pros: The introduction of this article does a very good job at explaining what the topic is about, including defining the key words that give the reader a background to the study at hand. Further on, the article does a sufficient job with explaining the exact history behind the study of old lakes, Paleolimnology, by giving the reader a vague timeline of who did what and where. Finally, are not many assumptions made about the topic, and there is usually a source to back that information up.

Cons: This article contains no analysis of the subject at hand. When going to an article about Paleolimnology, the reader should be presented with at least some information about experiments and or case studies related back to the subject at hand. Another flaw in the article is the age of the information of this article is too old. One would expect to see more recent studies involved with this article as newer and more in depth case studies help propel the subject of Paleolimnology forward, not sources limited to anything before 1990. In regards to how the proxy is used in the Paleolimnology, it would be nice to have some sort of visual of how the process works – this way the reader can have a better understanding the proxy itself... there is hardly any information about this process on this Wikipedia page. Helpful Articles: (Peer-reviewed)

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10933-016-9938-7

http://www.sciencedirect.com.proxy.lib.ohio-state.edu/science/article/pii/B9780444536433002363

HIGHTEE (talk) 01:42, 3 March 2017 (UTC)HIGHTEE

Suggestions//

1. The article does not go into depth explaining the use of proxy in understanding past climate. The article does not at all mention the word proxy, and fails to explain what it is and how it relates to proxy. I felt that the article was too short and failed to draw on the idea of paleolimnology in relation to proxy at all. 2. The references listed at the bottom of the wiki page are not recent at all, the most current one is 2006. When I searched paleolimnology I was able to come up with sources much more current and relevant to this time period. https://link.springer.com/journal/volumesAndIssues/10933 http://paperity.org/p/78376669/circumpolar-diatom-database-cdd-a-new-database-for-use-in-paleolimnology-and-limnology 3. I felt like the article was really hard to understand. I found myself looking up a lot of words written throughout the article. Wikipedia is a source that anyone should be able to use, therefore it should be written at a simpler level. Another recommendation is based of the references and sources the article lists. I felt that the dates of all the articles were outdated, and some later sources should be added to make the article more relevant to current times. --- Rachel Stack GEOG 3900 stack.73 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rachel.stack4 (talk • contribs) 04:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

suggestion for possible improvement in the article

The article “Paleolimnology” briefly describes its meaning and its relation to other fields of the sciences and also explain how the impacts of climate change and anthropogenic disturbances resulted in the variations of the stable state of the water. It further discussed the different methods that could be used to analyzed the past events with the help of different biological, physical and chemical proxies but some of the proxies have been not mentioned e.g. stomata, charcoal, and plant microfossils. It has just two headings with “Lake Ontogeny” and anthropogenic eutrophication, acidification, and climates”. Lake ontology has been explained well with detail description but “anthropogenic eutrophication, acidification and climates” has not been explained in depth. It is a broader aspect and could be broken down into subheadings and explained each of them in detail. Secondly, they haven’t mentioned anything about the methods that how these proxies will be used and no recent study has been mentioned as a reference and all the cited references are very old. It could be more helpful and up to date if recent articles and development in the field of paleolimnology have been added. Further, in the second paragraph, they refer to a study conducted from 1980 to 1990 and then there is no further information about the development in the field of paleolimnology. It is suggested that more recent articles and development in the field of paleolimnology should be added. Images can improve the better understanding of the article as well Jamilabaig (talk) 00:18, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Suggestions

In the macroinvertebrate section, some specific examples of taxonomic groups that are sensitive to low oxygen, or other specific examples, would be welcome. Also, since this topic is PALEOlimnology, which macroinvertebrates are preserved in the sediment record? Those with chitin, I assume. Chrionomids are one group (and there is much information presented later on this group) but since the macroinvertebrate section starts as a general overview, a summary of types of macroinvertbrates important in the sediment record would be useful to know. For example, beetles are also common in sediments. What else? What is not preserved and have provided records through time? Answer.to.the.rock (talk) 18:52, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Added Content Concerning Diatom Proxy Usage

I have added some information regarding the usage of Diatoms as a paleoclimate proxy. I have also added a source to accompany these statements from the journal Hydrobiologia. Please feel free to comment or suggest any changes as you see fit. Easleyma (talk) 20:14, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Major Article Overhaul for Limnology Course

Hello, as part of a Wikipedia project for my limnology course, I was tasked with performing a major overhaul of the paleolimnology page. I have just recently published my changes. I have removed a section only tangentially related to paleolimnology, as well as rearranged several sections for better flow. Major grammatical and spelling alterations to several sections as well. In addition, I have added significant content ot the section on paleoclimate proxies including the section on diatoms, pollen records, and organic matter analysis. Extensive references have been concurrently added as well. I have also added a few images. All the content and changes were approved by both my professor, and the wikiedu staff. If you have any questions or suggested changes please feel free to comment or suggest as you see fit. Thanks! Easleyma (talk) 17:55, 9 January 2021 (UTC)