Talk:Palace of the Soviets
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[edit]Rewrote the article, answering most of the past questions NVO 10:15, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
This is the first I've ever heard of this building getting beyond the drawing stage. I'd like to see a reference for this.
"The steel skeleton of the building was complete by the start of World War II. The attack on Moscow halted construction work, and the steel structure was torn down to produce tanks for the defence of the Soviet Union."
I'd like a referance too.... seems like their would be a photo or something of a giant steel frame like that.
- I have added two references, a German 2005 exhibition stating construction halted at the excavation site stage, and one by Tinet Elmgren in 2002 that claims a few ground floors were completed. Accordingly I've rewritten the sentence and removed the uncited claim of steel reuse.-Wikianon 08:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)== "huge public swimming pool." ==
"The site itself was turned into a huge public swimming pool."
Can we get a picture or citation of this? --Taboo Tongue 22:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
This is actually true, I've seen pictures of the pool. I'll try and locate a reference for this.
- The Memorial Deutschland 2005 exhibition apparantly had a 1960 picture of the pool, so I've added a reference to their catalogue entry, but no picture.-Wikianon 08:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
The finished steel skeleton?
[edit]I added this in the article but it was later reverted.
- The steel skeleton of the building was complete by the start of World War II. The attack on Moscow halted construction work, and the steel structure was torn down to produce tanks for the defence of the Soviet Union.
The source on this is a television documentary, which in fact showed images of the finished steel skeleton. I am however unable to find this information anywhere in the web.
What we know from web sources is that construction was begun in 1937 and halted in 1941. The foundations were completed 1939. I find it unlikely that all that was achived was an "excavation site". -- Petri Krohn 02:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Height
[edit]A 100 metre (325 feet) high statue of Vladimir Lenin topped a superstructure composed of several receding tiers of cylindrical masses, evocative of artistic depictions of the Tower of Babel. The total height of the building was planned at 415 meters (1365 feet), 34 meters taller than the Empire State Building - is that 415 meters inclusive or exclusive of the statue? Nik42 06:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't have any books in front of me, but I believe that includes the statue, which is why it is worded like that ("The total height"). Recury 14:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Drawings of the Building Itself
[edit]Why hasnt anybody put up a sketch, painting, or drawing of what the actual building would have looked like? There are so many on Google.--163.150.137.101 (talk) 19:19, 12 October 2010 (UTC) Yeah, seriously. In fact, I swear I've seen a sketch of it on wikipedia before, because I know what it looks like and can't imagine where else I would have seen it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.85.248 (talk) 10:13, 18 June 2011 (UTC) Yeah there were better images of it on this article before, but they were removed for some reason...
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