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Mauricio Restrepo

Teodoro Mauricio Fino Restrepo «El Gaviota» is probably too young to be depicted as Mauricio Restrepo.

According to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YQ1S4qKNaM and the Spanish page about "Pablo Escobar, The Drug Lord" the man behind Mauricio Restrepo is Luis Enrique Ramírez Murillo «Miki Ramírez». 2001:1C02:1A99:D200:ECA6:91A9:4FC6:AA18 (talk) 15:38, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Title

I'm changing the title. Netflix title is Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal. So I think we can consider that the new international title. "The drug lord" is also a very poor translation of "El patrón del Mal"Tazelaar (talk) 09:36, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Historical accuracy, excessive detail

The list of anachronisms has an "excessive detail" banner.

@JeanMercier90 Did you find all these anachronisms yourself or is there a source we might link to, so we can remove the list?

Tazelaar (talk) 19:57, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I put the sources. But I see you're like the clown DEA agents which wrote this awful Netflix series Narcos. You don't know anything about Colombia and it's history. JeanMercier90 (talk) 17:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JeanMercier90 Wow, why the hostility? I didn't even criticize you. I didn't put up that banner. Why do you think I'm ignorant? I haven't seen Narco's (yet) and I like El Patron del Mal. You think El Patron del Mal is inaccurate/accurate? The reason why I reached out to you, is because of the banner (which I did not place). I did not want do delete the list you uploaded if it was all your hard work. Maybe if the sources have al those points, we can summarize your list and just link to the sources. I think I might be able to summarize my list too. Tazelaar (talk) 16:18, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pablo Escobar, The Drug Lord → Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal – Netflix title is "Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal" (With that stylisation, is also the original stylisation). So I think we can consider that the new international title. "The drug lord" is also a very poor translation of "El patrón del Mal" Tazelaar (talk) 09:56, 25 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tazelaar Apple TV+ Still calls it "Pablo Escobar: The Drug Lord" here. --Ahecht (TALK
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Netflix (here) and IMDb (here) and MUBI (here) call it "El patrón del mal". Tazelaar (talk) 13:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think this settles it, doesn't it? Tazelaar (talk) 16:19, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tazelaar Contesting as this likely needs a discussion to move forward. This wiki prefers English titles when possible, and we use the WP:COMMONNAME which is the name reported by majority of sources (again, preferably English sources, which are typically going to favor an English translation) - as for the translation, if the official translation is incorrect, it might be borderline editorializing if we try to correct it unless the correction we go with is also supported by majority of RS. At the very least, we would need to see sources or evidence of which title is the common name to move forward (and that would be most productive in a discussion where editors can bring forward opposing evidence that may have been missed.) ASUKITE 14:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I concede that the content of the translation is a circumstantial argument, but an argument nonetheless. Tazelaar (talk) 13:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another circumstantial argument is that: "El patrón del mal" is a better recognisable title. Pablo Escobar was a drug lord, so the title could be used normally in a sentence. "El patrón del mal" is a unique title, more distinguishing from the "Pablo Escobar" article and Google results. Tazelaar (talk) 13:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tazelaar; your technical request has been contested. If you wish to continue with the request, please use the "discuss" link in your request to open a full RM. Sennecaster (Chat) 19:28, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apple TV calls it by this English name. I don't think it's as much a translation as just the English title. However, the , should be a :, Pablo Escobar: The Drug Lord as is the typical English styling. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:03, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]