Talk:Ouranopithecus

Mammals Low‑importance

	Mammals portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Mammals, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of mammal-related subjects on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MammalsWikipedia:WikiProject MammalsTemplate:WikiProject Mammalsmammal articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Palaeontology Low‑importance

	Paleontology portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Palaeontology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of palaeontology-related topics and create a standardized, informative, comprehensive and easy-to-use resource on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PalaeontologyWikipedia:WikiProject PalaeontologyTemplate:WikiProject PalaeontologyPalaeontology articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Primates Low‑importance

	Primates portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Primates, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Primates on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PrimatesWikipedia:WikiProject PrimatesTemplate:WikiProject PrimatesPrimate articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Anthropology Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anthropology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Anthropology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AnthropologyWikipedia:WikiProject AnthropologyTemplate:WikiProject AnthropologyAnthropology articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.

Merge

If the two are synonymous then they should be merged, according to Smith et al., 2004. See also: List of human evolution fossils. Jack (talk) 13:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. FunkMonk (talk) 13:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I'll start working this. - UtherSRG (talk) 08:19, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It seems this article should be merged into Graecopithecus, unlike what the tag says. FunkMonk (talk) 09:38, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was just about to say, there seems to be enough variability on this issue that perhaps we should just leave things as they are for now, and take a survey of the sources to see where the majority opinion is on this. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:56, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Here's what I find in the citations in the articles:

Andrews & Franzen 1984: I believe they say both species should be considered as G. freybergi. Hard to tell since I can't read the whole book. I'll try again after I check the other sources.
Else & Lee 1986: Introduces Ouranopithecus as a new genus, so of course it is distinct from Graecopithecus.
Hartwig 2002: G. freybegi is distinct and in its own genus.
Cameron 2004: Says genus should be Graecopithecus, but two distinct species.
Smith & Martin et al 2004: Treats O. macedoniensis as a synonym for G. freybergi.
Koufos & Bonis 2009: G. freybergi is monotypic.
Casanovas-Vilar (undated, but cites a 2010 article): O. macedoniensis and G. freybergi are distinct species and in different genera. It also notes that there's at least one and possibly two other species in Ouranopithecus: O. turkae.

Looks like the majority (overwhelmingly) says two genera and two species. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:25, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Uther, for this research summary. Based upon this, I've just removed the merge template. LadyofShalott 03:58, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, thanks for looking into this. Admittedly I based the merge request on one paper I came across, so thanks for clarifying. Cheers, Jack (talk) 11:55, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology

Why was it named "sky ape"?--94.68.156.11 (talk) 13:00, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It should be read as "Rain Ape", after the Ravin de la Pluie site.--MWAK (talk) 10:06, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

More closer to humans than to apes?

Humans are apes so what does that even mean? If this article is referring to the last common ancestor between humans and gorillas, that means chimpanzees and bonobos are being referred to as "human" in that context. ChallengingAnthropocentrism (talk) 21:16, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]