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This man was from both East Prussia and the Province of Prussia

Where is the problem? Otto Braun was from East Prussia. You may check his autobiography Von Weimar zu Hitler, Zurich 1940, if you are seriously interested. But come on, you are not interested in real history. Let me just guess: You don't like Germans... ? --DaQuirin 21:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let me guess: You don't like Poles? That's why you jump to conclusions about their "nationalism", right? Explain to me how he could've been born in East Prussia, if East Prussia did not exist then. Let me make another guess: You don't like logic, either? Space Cadet 21:19, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I love Germans, especially those with East Prussian (1772 - 1829, 1878 - 1945) ancestry.

Well, there a millions of them, many of them with additional Slavic ancestry too. East Prussia and West Prussia formed a joint province for some time. How exciting, that is your point? Did Wielkopolska / Greater Poland cease ist existence because it had been annexed by Prussia? --DaQuirin 21:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Poles don't have a category - Polish natives of Greater Poland, do they? And if they do, Wielkopolska is a geographical region (unlike East Prussia) with rather unspecified borders, so I'd like to see that. Space Cadet 21:36, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your argument that there are too many categories here, is a good one. Stop this whole category nonsense here, and you are right. But your point is another one. You come up with the Province of Prussia argument, and this is ... silly (sorry, probably you are an intelligent guy). But your are the lawyer-type amateur historian. They united their two provinces for some time, and so East Prussia (with its long distinct history, far away from 'real' Germany, the HRR and so on), disappeared from Earth. You are not believing it yourself. But now answer my question: after 1793/1815 no Wielkopolska anymore until 1918? You are kidding. --DaQuirin 22:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably an intelligent guy too, but you missed my point completely! My point is: there is not enough categories. Wielkopolska again has been a "geographical region (unlike East Prussia) with very unspecified borders" and it was NEVER a "joint" province (it is now, if you know what I mean) therefore the analogy is pointless. Germany proper instead of "real" Germany. Space Cadet 22:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think that East Prussia was not (also) a geographical region? Strange. But anyway, you don't bother about the Otto Braun article. "Prussia" should be a fine compromise here. Those interested in the East Prussia stuff, can follow our academic debate here. --DaQuirin 12:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think otherwise? Outrageous. This compromise is fine of course. Space Cadet 13:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Outrageous is a fitting term for your nationalistic behaviour here. East Prussia as a commonly known historical region from the Medieval age, its distinct history and geography: The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001-05 East Prussia -- DaQuirin 01:58, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't trust Americans. What does Britannica say? Oh, yeah and how am I nationalistic? Space Cadet 12:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Translation from German article

Since the German language article is considerably more detailed than the (former) English version, it seemed worthwhile to translate it. I kept some pieces of the English article that aren't in the German and made some slight abridgments to the German. The German article is thin when it comes to citations, so I added as many new ones as I could find (mostly from LeMO).

Comments or questions welcomed here or on my talk page. GHStPaulMN (talk) 14:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]