Talk:No homo

This article was nominated for deletion on 8 August 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

A fact from No homo appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 August 2009 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that rapper Lil Wayne is said to have brought the phrase "no homo" into the mainstream of hip hop?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2009/August.

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Quotes at intro

I think 'lil wayne's quote is less illustrative than jeezy's, and I think there are better examples out there. for example, the k west line from 'run this town' might be better than the wayne line used in the article: "It's crazy how you can go from being Joe Blow, / To everybody on your dick, no homo."

Slightly longer than wayne's, but I think it makes more sense. what do you all think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.137.88.205 (talk) 21:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Media

Anyone have a good reference for the use of "no homo" in the TV show "The Boondocks" episode "Pause"? — MrBucket^T/_C 04:48, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Isnt wikipedia supposed to be about facts ?

The whole paragraph about homophobia is stating someone's opinion, whoever wrote that only cites one source, taken from a blog that is clearly biased.

Caddyshack

Since July this page has contained a form of the statement (presently written as):

A popular belief is that the first appearance on screen or recordings was in the film Caddyshack in 1980 when Ty Webb (Chevy Chase) uses the line in response to a question from the young lady he is entertaining.

which mistakenly was placed on the page in front of the citation < ref name="Catucci" /> from another statement in the section it was added into. The citation that appears after it, unsurprisingly, makes no mention of Caddyshack.

The relevant part of the movie includes this quotation, about Vietnam:

Woman: "Who's your decorator, Beni Hana?"

Webb: "No, I bought most of that stuff back in Vietnam."

Woman: "You were in the war?"

Webb: "Ah, no; homo. Much better now though."

This clearly has no relevance to the "No homo" phrase. Chevy Chase's character is claiming he used the excuse of being a homosexual to get out of the Vietnam War and is "much better now, though."

The rest of the Wikipedia says that the statement originated in East Harlem in the early 90s, which again would go against the quote existing in the movie Caddyshack 10 years earlier.

Rather than "no homo" = "no homosexuality implied," the Caddyshack movie uses "no; [long pause] homo." to mean "No. The reason I wasn't in the Vietnam War was because I was a homosexual."

A small audio clip of this quote can be heard here: http://www.carlspackler.com/sounds/092.mp3 (46kb) via http://www.carlspackler.com/sounds.html

It should be noted that the first edit that this was added (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=No_homo&action=historysubmit&diff=440354667&oldid=434262781), it was written in this form, not exactly credible to begin with:

another popular belife is that the first appearance on screen or recordings was in the film caddyshack as ty webb(chevy chase) uses the line in response to a question from the young lady he is entertaining.

Seriouslyshouldjustbe (talk) 00:30, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Saying he was a homosexual that way is weird, remember Occam’s Razor IgnoredCelery (talk) 14:10, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

pause

I've never heard of the word 'pause' being used to mean 'no homo' which is a well known phrase. The etymology of 'pause' having this meaning is not explained or supported here, can we do a better job of this? It's confusing. Ranze (talk) 22:17, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Battle rappers from all over the US seem to use either no homo or pause, but which one they use more seems to be based on where they are from geographically. You should watch URLTV for example (URL = Ultmate Rap League). It gets used alot. Pause. No Homo.75.92.102.144 (talk) 06:15, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Purpose of this article

So this article is 90% criticism of the term and use in media. Does it even warrant an article? Bataaf van Oranje (talk) 10:47, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The prevalence and commonality of the word does warrant an article. IgnoredCelery (talk) 14:09, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is written as an opinion piece

This article contains some good facts related to the term "No Homo" and its usage. However, the majority of sections are written in a manner such to suggest that the opinions of those cited are factual. We can state that there's controversy over the use of the expression, but that should be divorced from the facts surrounding it. Tjr128 (talk) 18:22, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism section issue

The Criticism section had an issue with it failing to start out with a criticism of the term due to some previous editor removing the opening sentence leaving the section with a second sentence that referred to a previous one that now longer existed. If someone genuinely feels that the opening sentence citations does not adequately support the criticism then please explain why here before simply deleting it. If there is no genuine criticism that can be supported by reliable sources then maybe the whole section should be removed, though I doubt this is the case. Im pretty sure others sources for the criticism of the term can be found so I recommend you start there rather then simply deleting the opening sentence leaving the section a confusing mess. --108.239.8.149 (talk) 20:15, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]