Talk:Nirmāṇakāya

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This article really needs expansion. I have pulled some text from Tulpa, which was inexplicably linked from several Tibetan Buddhist articles which should have linked here. The Indian Buddhist subsection may be original research. The previous version of that article was apparently trying to prove that tulpa and nirmanakaya are the same thing, rather than stick to the Theosophical concept derived from a misunderstanding of the meaning of a Tibetan word, which took on a life of its own quite distinct from the Buddhist usage. So I left that article to stick to the concept in Theosophy and popular culture, since it's not a term in common use in Buddhism... Skyerise (talk) 20:24, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Western occult revisionism?

I see material that looks surprisingly similar to claims about i.e. "Goden Down's body of light" visualization (to achieve OOBE) and am wondering if the text reflects the source, or if the Fiordallis source is reliable. Will try to eventually re-read on this, it's a topic I used to have some interest in 20+ years back... Another article on my TODO list. —Paleo Neonate – 01:09, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

limited and one sided

I came here to find out what Nirmankaya means, but quite frankly could not really get an idea from the current text. The article is too specifically focused on the Fiordallis dissertation and the superhuman aspect of buddhahood. Eventually, I resorted to Encyclopedia Britannica which provided me with a text I could understand and relate to:

"The emanation body (nirmanakaya) is the form of the Buddha that appears in the world to teach people the path to liberation. The enjoyment (or bliss) body (sambhogakaya) is the celestial body of the Buddha to which contemplation can ascend. In the heavenly regions, or Pure Lands, the enjoyment body teaches the bodhisattva doctrines that are unintelligible to those who are unenlightened. The unmanifested body of the law (dharmakaya) already appears in the Saddharmapundarika, or Lotus Sutra, a transitional text of great importance to Mahayana devotional schools. In many Mahayana texts buddhas are infinite and share an identical nature—the dharmakaya."

Please provide some basic explanation of Nirmankaya here, which any common mortal can understand and provide some references which go beyond 21st century sources. Buddhism has been around for a while and reflects more than (if at all) superhuman powers.

Hskoppek (talk) 09:01, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

questionable reference

The article provides this reference "The Dalai Lama, Biography and Daily Life: Birth to Exile", however, neither on this page and none of the other primary pages of that website is Nirmāṇakāya mentioned. You might as well have given "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Old-Man-and-the-Sea/Ernest-Hemingway/9781476787848" as a reference. Hskoppek (talk) 15:44, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]