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Nicholas J. Fuentes (December 7, 2023). "GOP Presidential Debate 4".

Anti-Thiel views

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Fuentes has positioned himself against Peter Thiel and the network of far-right thinkers affiliated with him. In particular, Fuentes claimed that Curtis Yarvin believes that “non-Jews are incapable of governing themselves and therefore must always be ruled by Jews.” (Yarvin, a Thiel associate whom JD Vance has cited approvingly, is part-Jewish). Given how influential the Thiel crowd has become in today’s GOP, the fact that Fuentes has declared all-out war on them is significant. It shows that the intraparty battles aren’t limited to just “establishment vs. MAGA” anymore, since neither Thiel nor Fuentes are considered to be establishment and both men are usually classified as far-right.2604:2D80:7186:600:0:0:0:1397 (talk) 18:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Q2: Fuentes denies being a white nationalist/white supremacist. Shouldn't the article reflect this?"

I do not dispute the truthness of the allegation. I am not really happy about the way this section of the FAQ is written. It comes off as overly snarky and condescending towards the reader and just not very formal or 'Wiki-like'. The fact that it doesn't bother to even cite the relevant policies doesn't help Trade (talk) 18:27, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Should imo be included. Do you have a source?~~ misunderstood the question--FMSky (talk) 04:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How does one include something that's already included? Trade (talk) 15:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. He might well be all that, but an FAQ should not read like this. Would second removal of Q2 for the time being. Biohistorian15 (talk) 10:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed Q2. The article has mentioned Fuentes's denial since 2021, and the FAQ wasn't created until 2022. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should we add an video of Fuentes to the article?

There are two of them on Commons Trade (talk) 02:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change Nicks photo to this : https://americafirstfoundation.org/_app/immutable/assets/AFPACIII-podium.8a78edab.webp Iphoneaff (talk) 15:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I found better photo, change it to this: https://static.americafirstfoundation.org/Press%20Photos/Vax%20Watch/AFF_Vax%20Watch_3.jpg Iphoneaff (talk) 15:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done There's no evidence that this image is on a free license. In order to be included in a Wikipedia article, images need to have a specific license. Please see Wikimedia Commons for more on this. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 15:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible error regarding capitol remarks

In the section about Fuentes's involvement in the U.S. Capitol attack, this page describes Fuentes as saying on January 6 that "It is us and our ancestors that created everything good that you see in this country. All these people that have taken over our country—we do not need them. ... It is the American people, and our leader, Donald Trump, against everybody else in this country and this world... Our Founding Fathers would get in the streets, and they would take this country back by force if necessary. And that is what we must be prepared to do."

But if you read the article cited there, the New Yorker article "Among the Insurrectionists," it seems clear that Fuentes made those remarks in an earlier rally on December 12. I don't have extended confirmed status, so can someone else fix this? 70.133.247.25 (talk) 21:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've adjusted this to provide more context. Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 22:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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On 4th September 2024, Fuentes posted his response to Trump finally admitting that he lost the 2020 election; he discussed so much wasted effort and so many bad consequences for so many people.

White nationalist Nick Fuentes blasts Trump for admitting that he lost the 2020 election: "So, why did we do Stop the Steal? ... It would have been good to know that before 1,600 people got charged." https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/a-big-ripoff-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-blasts-trump-for-admitting-he-lost-the-2020-election/ 78.150.228.172 (talk) 16:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 22:55, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Emperor Ibrahim I (talk) 19:45, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to make the language of the article less biased. Additionally, the article provides very little information on Nick's personal life such as siblings.

Portions of the article related to his ventures with Ye, dinner with Trump,are very vague. For example, Nicholas discussed on one of his shows the content of the conversation he had with Donald Trump, but none of this appears in the article

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Grayfell (talk) 20:00, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nick Fuentes isn’t a nazi. He has a beef with actual neo nazis. I’d more so call him a neo fascist. 2601:247:C881:1280:569:7A9B:9E17:360A (talk) 04:04, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: No consensus and Wikipedia goes by reliable sources. See also distinction without a difference. Grayfell (talk) 05:58, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adding more latest information on Nick Fuentes, update image to a more distinctive and recent time. Jmac66999 (talk) 12:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 14:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Effect on 4B Movement

I made an edit on a post he made on X. It could be added here. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=My_body,_my_choice&diff=prev&oldid=1256057499 207.96.32.81 (talk) 00:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 4B movement is a vastly overblown sentiment that isn't even very popular in South korea, I don't really think it's notable Jjbomb (talk) 21:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

the photo used is very low quality, can it be updated? 72.78.149.104 (talk) 00:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i forgot to log in 72.78.149.104 (talk) 00:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We dont have another one available as of now --FMSky (talk) 02:52, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Groypers

Could someone add a hyperlink to the Wikipedia entry on Groypers to the use of the term in the article? Owlsblab (talk) 18:47, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification - I meant in the part talking about Gettr deplatforming him. Owlsblab (talk) 18:54, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's linked at the top of that section. See MOS:REPEATLINK for why we don't repeat links throughout. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Should be listed as a Mexican-American not just American 50.47.82.60 (talk) 02:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, he’s also Italian-American too. American is fine as is.^[1]

References

^ https://www.conservapedia.com/Nicholas_J._Fuentes

Not done: per MOS:ETHNICITY. Skynxnex (talk) 18:28, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFC on Swatting inclusion

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Should there be a change in Personal Life section from

According to Fuentes, he is of Mexican descent via his paternal ancestors and is Catholic.^[1]^[2]

to

According to Fuentes, he is of Mexican descent via his paternal ancestors and is Catholic.^[3]^[2]Fuentes lives alone and has been subject to swatting incidents. ^[4]^[5]

? 207.96.32.81 (talk) 12:31, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is both grammatically incorrect, the sources are insufficient, and it probably breaks at least one guideline: WP:CRIME. Allan Nonymous (talk) 06:03, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CRIME is about notability for article subjects, not information in the article. Readingpro256 _{talk to me contribs} 14:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're right on WP:CRIME but I still feel there is no reason to include this in the personal life section of the article without sufficient sourcing. Allan Nonymous (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to Fuentes, he is of Mexican descent via his paternal ancestors and is Catholic. Fuentes lives alone and has been subject to swatting incidents. Readingpro256 _{talk to me contribs} 14:29, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps "According to Fuentes, he is Catholic and has Mexican ancestry from his paternal ancestors"? Kline • talk • contribs 14:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds a bit off. What about "According to Fuentes, he is Catholic and has Mexican ancestry on his father's side"? Readingpro256 _{talk to me contribs} 14:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can work with that, seems more fluent than the current suggestion. Kline • talk • contribs 14:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

References

^ Cortellessa, Eric; Sheffield, Matthew (November 22, 2019). "The Conservative Establishment's Nightmare Is Only Just Beginning". Washington Monthly. Archived from the original on December 21, 2019. Retrieved April 30, 2020. Fuentes, who identifies as a traditional Catholic and is partially of Hispanic descent...
^ ^a ^b Anderson, Nick (November 16, 2019). "Far-right agitators roil the conservative movement on college campuses in battle to define Trumpism". The Washington Post. Archived from the original on November 17, 2019. Retrieved November 18, 2019.
^ Cortellessa, Eric; Sheffield, Matthew (November 22, 2019). "The Conservative Establishment's Nightmare Is Only Just Beginning". Washington Monthly. Archived from the original on December 21, 2019. Retrieved April 30, 2020. Fuentes, who identifies as a traditional Catholic and is partially of Hispanic descent...
^ "Nick Fuentes Trades Parents' Basement for Pricey Livestreaming Den". Southern Poverty Law Center. 2022-11-19.
^ "Fuentes Victim Of 'Swatting' Incidents: Cops". La Grange, IL Patch. 2023-01-06.

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Typo In the "Political Activities" Section, at the end of the first paragraph of the "Relation to the January 6 Capitol Attack" subject, Donald Trump's name is incorrectly spelled as "Domald Trump" Change Domald Trump to Donald Trump in the sentence "In February 2021, a video of his speech was played during the second impeachment trial of Domald Trump by the House delegate Stacey Plaskett." Hotel716 (talk) 15:34, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done – Muboshgu (talk) 15:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A new photo is necessary

Even a screenshot from a recent video of his would be an upgrade, as the current one is both old and low quality. 2001:BB6:7DC4:500:64F3:7F1A:5F:2ED8 (talk) 17:58, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We have to follow WP:Copyright policy. Does he make his videos freely available by Creative Commons licenses? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the vid of him assaultin a woman was uploaded to youtube under CCL 2601:281:DA01:70B0:4473:D9A6:9104:4268 (talk) 08:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

typo in the beginning

the page is protected so somebody please change “as” to “is” 2A02:3035:B14:3C0B:8517:6FB4:8F13:2CE2 (talk) 02:00, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see it. If you mean "Fuentes identifies as a member of the incel movement, a supporter of authoritarianism, and as an integralist and a Christian nationalist" this is correct. He identifies ... as an integralist... Grayfell (talk) 03:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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i want to add about the fact that nick funetes "declared war on maga" with the claim "his campaign has been hijacked by the same consultants, lobbyists, & donors that he defeated in 2016, and they're blowing it." as well as his claims that trumpism is a cult. Juliansmith1234 (talk) 10:05, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The purpose of this talk page is to propose specific changes to the article. If you have a specific change and can cite reliable sources, please feel free to propose that change here. Otherwise, you can edit the article once you have made 500 edits with your account and that account is at least 30 days old. (You will still need reliable sources, though.) Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 09:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.conservapedia.com/Nicholas_J._Fuentes

[2] Cortellessa, Eric; Sheffield, Matthew (November 22, 2019). "The Conservative Establishment's Nightmare Is Only Just Beginning". Washington Monthly. Archived from the original on December 21, 2019. Retrieved April 30, 2020. Fuentes, who identifies as a traditional Catholic and is partially of Hispanic descent...

[:2Anderson-3] Anderson, Nick (November 16, 2019). "Far-right agitators roil the conservative movement on college campuses in battle to define Trumpism". The Washington Post. Archived from the original on November 17, 2019. Retrieved November 18, 2019.

[4] Cortellessa, Eric; Sheffield, Matthew (November 22, 2019). "The Conservative Establishment's Nightmare Is Only Just Beginning". Washington Monthly. Archived from the original on December 21, 2019. Retrieved April 30, 2020. Fuentes, who identifies as a traditional Catholic and is partially of Hispanic descent...

[5] "Nick Fuentes Trades Parents' Basement for Pricey Livestreaming Den". Southern Poverty Law Center. 2022-11-19.

[6] "Fuentes Victim Of 'Swatting' Incidents: Cops". La Grange, IL Patch. 2023-01-06.

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