Talk:Nichols's Missouri Cavalry Regiment

Comment: out of scope

The first two paragraphs under the Background and organization section appear to be unneeded. These describe events in 1861-62 that are not connected to the history of Nichols's Regiment, which was formed in 1864. This material would be covered in Missouri in the Civil War, which you thoughtfully included as a link. See Wikipedia:Relevance of content and Wikipedia:Out of scope. (I admit to being an offender too, in some of my articles.) The third paragraph is, of course, directly relevant to the topic at hand and should remain in the article. Djmaschek (talk) 05:42, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Djmaschek - I've actually been requested to put that background in there at GA reviews. See Talk:12th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate)/GA1 and Talk:Slayback's Missouri Cavalry Regiment/GA1, with the latter citing the precedent of the first one. Landis's Missouri Battery passed FAC with twice as much background content. Slayback's Regiment passed ACR with almost the exact same material as in this one, and is close to passing FAC. I'm okay with trimming it, although I personally prefer it to be in there. Would you like me to ping in Peacemaker67, the GA reviewer who requested that in similar articles, or to post something at WT:MILHIST asking for input, or something like that? Hog Farm _Bacon 06:18, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

I obviously encouraged its inclusion so that the reader understands the background to the formation of the unit and the fighting in Missouri up to the point the unit was created, so I certainly support proper background being added to articles, particularly if it is intended they may be brought to ACR or FAC one day. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

I've reviewed several similar articles and I personally find the context provided in that section useful, particularly because the generic reader reader isn't necessarily intimately familiar with the history of Missouri in the Civil War. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:18, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Leave the two paragraphs in. I respectfully withdraw my objection, since two experienced editors argue in favor of keeping it in. I wrote the following B class articles and did not believe it necessary to add similar background information (though I may be guilty of adding too many other details): 7th Missouri Cavalry Regiment (Union), 40th Missouri and 44th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Union), and Battery B and Battery E, 1st Missouri Light Artillery Regiment. Djmaschek (talk) 03:19, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

BTW: I just wrote a new (stub) article for a red link in your article: Memphis and Little Rock Railroad. Djmaschek (talk) 03:19, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 20:06, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

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24-pounder howitzer

• ... that when the unit was formed, about two-thirds of the men of Nichols's Missouri Cavalry Regiment were unarmed? Ref 9 in text
  • ALT1:... that Nichols's Missouri Cavalry Regiment helped capture a 24-pounder howitzer (example pictured) at the Battle of Byram's Ford? Ref 18 in the text

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Frances Spatz Leighton

Improved to Good Article status by Hog Farm (talk). Self-nominated at 03:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC).

• @Hog Farm: This article is a newly promoted GA and meets the newness and length criteria. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. The ALT1 hook would be satisfactory but the image is ineligible for DYK because it does not appear in the article. ALT0 is not borne out by the article as it does not mention two thirds of the recruits being unarmed. You could craft a hook about the attack on Glasgow, the city in Scotland being much better known than its Missouri namesake. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:45, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

• • ALT2:... that Nichols's Missouri Cavalry Regiment attacked Glasgow, trying to acquire weapons for its unarmed recruits?
    • Cwmbiraeth - ALT0 is in the last paragraph of the Background and organization section. Hog Farm _Bacon 14:18, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

OK, approving the original hook, but not ALT1. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:29, 16 December 2020 (UTC)