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A fact from New Hurley Reformed Church appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 December 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that New York's New Hurley Reformed Church (pictured) was founded by members of another area church who were cut off from their building after a flood washed out a bridge?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2015/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/New Hurley Reformed Church.

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Wider?

How can an addition (1811) to the rear of a church cause it to become wider? [ETA: Uh... it got rebuilt since so we might never know.] Circéus (talk) 04:16, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think that maybe the entrance was on the long side, with the altar directly across from it. Daniel Case (talk) 02:21, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Reformed Church of Shawangunk article mentions that the interior of that church was rotated during a renovation. It's possible the New Hurley building was also rotated at some point. Overall, it is a confusing sentence. Normally the rear of a church is the end you walk into. You have the portico, the rear wall with entrance doors, the vestibule, another wall with doors, and then the sanctuary. It's unfortunate the web page cited says the addition was on the rear. Had they said they added 20 feet making a church that was wider than it was long it would make sense.

One possibility is that since the new building was built on the foundation of the old one that the church was rotated during this rebuild. The old entrance (and rear) was on the east end. The building was expanded by adding 20 feet to the south end making it wider than long. When it was torn down and rebuilt the entrance and thus the "rear" was moved to the south end and you could say the 20 foot addition done in 1811 was in the part of the building that's now the rear. There is a cemetery immediately to the north and west of the building and so you could not expand it in those directions.

Ideally, someone finds pictures or diagrams of the original building and adds those to the article. --Marc Kupper|talk 05:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing aspects about the founding

The lead says "After several years, they were granted permission to establish a new church on the condition it was located away from the river." This is not supported by a citation nor the article body where it appears the requirement that the new church be located some distance away from the Bruynswick church.

I had to read the article a couple of times to figure out the name of the original church which as that information is buried in the article body. I was still confused on if it's more commonly known as the "Reformed Church of Shawangunk" or "Bruynswick church". The article uses both names. The Reformed Church of Shawangunk article never has the phrase "Bruynswick church" and barely mentions the name "Bruynswick". Maybe it's called the Shawangunk church by people in the area? This needs to be sorted out and then the name made more prominent in the article as people had been meeting at the Bruynswick church, the bridge was washed out, and the New Hurley church was constructed.

I'm also left wondering if the bridge was ever replaced. I doubt its sole function was to allow people in the New Hurley area to attend the Bruynswick church.

It would help if a map was added showing the two churches and the river. The Bruynswick church is roughly 1.5 miles east of the Wallkill River and the New Hurley church is roughly 2.5 miles west of the river. --Marc Kupper|talk 05:48, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]