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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
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... that LCD Soundsystem recorded the song "New Body Rhumba" specifically for the 2022 film White Noise?Source: Variety- Reviewed: Shannon Lucid
Created by Koavf (talk) and Aria1561 (talk). Nominated by Aria1561 (talk) at 03:33, 8 October 2022 (UTC).
- The article meets DYK requirements, I didn't find any close paraphrasing, and a QPQ has been done. However, I'm not a fan of the hook. It's very common for songs to be written specifically for films (if anything, it's usually the norm for most movie songs) and I don't see how special this particular case is compared to others. It also makes less sense to readers who are unfamiliar with either the artist or the film. Can you propose other suggestions here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:42, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping to Koavf as Aria1561 has yet to respond. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:39, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5,
"... that LCD Soundsystem recorded their first work in five years—the song "New Body Rhumba"—specifically for the 2022 film White Noise?"emphasizes how this is an event. Thoughts? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:42, 12 October 2022 (UTC)- @Koavf: It's a better hook but not by much. Do you have any potential suggestions that don't involve the "made for the film" angle? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:08, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5:
""... that LCD Soundsystem recorded their first work in five years—the song "New Body Rhumba"—and it appears in the 2022 film White Noise?""―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:49, 14 October 2022 (UTC)- @Koavf: I'll be honest, it's still not a great suggestion. Are there any other possibilities here that don't involve LCD Soundsystem recording for the first time in five years or that the song was made for/is used in that film? I do have an idea for a revised hook wording for ALT1 in mind but I'd like to hear first if you have any non-White Noise/non-"five years" suggestions. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:49, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- No. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:52, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Koavf: I'll be honest, it's still not a great suggestion. Are there any other possibilities here that don't involve LCD Soundsystem recording for the first time in five years or that the song was made for/is used in that film? I do have an idea for a revised hook wording for ALT1 in mind but I'd like to hear first if you have any non-White Noise/non-"five years" suggestions. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:49, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5:
- @Koavf: It's a better hook but not by much. Do you have any potential suggestions that don't involve the "made for the film" angle? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:08, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5,
- Courtesy ping to Koavf as Aria1561 has yet to respond. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:39, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Koavf: Okay. What do you think about this suggestion?
- ALT3 ... that LCD Soundsystem recorded for the first time in five years by making the song "New Body Rhumba" for the 2022 film White Noise?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:25, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apologies for my lack of a response. ALT3 is a solid choice for DYK, seconding it. Aria1561 (talk) 17:57, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Asking for another reviewer for ALT3 because I still have reservations on the hook fact's interestingness, but I'm thinking that maybe a different reviewer has another opinion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:13, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 and Aria1561: Article is new enough, long enough, contains no close paraphrasing that I could detect and is neutrally written with opinions properly attributed. ALT3 is marginally better but still pretty vanilla.
For brevity and flow, I would replace "making" with "recording" and would excise the song title.DigitalIceAge (talk) 01:24, 26 October 2022 (UTC)- I see no benefit coming from removing the song title from the hook. Aside from that, I find ALT3 (after swapping "making" with "recording") to be sufficient for DYK. I personally find it interesting that a band would come back after a five-year break from recording new material to record a song specifically for a film soundtrack, and I'm sure many others will as well. Aria1561 (talk) 01:28, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Aria1561: Excuse my brain fog please: Replacing "making" with "recording", that would result in a double 'record[ing]' in the hook, so ignore that suggestion of mine. I do think omitting the title puts further emphasis on how unusual the fact that a film score is what broke their hiatus is, and encourages the reader to click on and find out what the title of the song is. Just my 2¢. DigitalIceAge (talk) 01:56, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- I see no benefit coming from removing the song title from the hook. Aside from that, I find ALT3 (after swapping "making" with "recording") to be sufficient for DYK. I personally find it interesting that a band would come back after a five-year break from recording new material to record a song specifically for a film soundtrack, and I'm sure many others will as well. Aria1561 (talk) 01:28, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 and Aria1561: Article is new enough, long enough, contains no close paraphrasing that I could detect and is neutrally written with opinions properly attributed. ALT3 is marginally better but still pretty vanilla.
- @Narutolovehinata5: This nomination has now been open for a month and has gone over two weeks without additional comments. Your ALT3 suggestion is sufficient and interesting enough for DYK. There is no need to drag this nom out any longer. I would appreciate it if you approved this hook for DYK. Aria1561 (talk) 02:32, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- I already stated earlier that I am leaving the final decision to another reviewer and so I am recusing from approving this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:34, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- New reviewer needed to check and, if appropriate, approve one of the hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:32, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- I personally think it's (Alt3) interesting so i'll approve. Onegreatjoke (talk) 01:32, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- New reviewer needed to check and, if appropriate, approve one of the hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:32, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- I already stated earlier that I am leaving the final decision to another reviewer and so I am recusing from approving this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:34, 15 November 2022 (UTC)